rx7gslse

Alright.. after an autocross this weekend and having a blast at it, it is becoming apparant that this will become a regular event. Therefore I need to do some suspension work. I'm not looking for an all out race car, but what I have is very old.. So what are good combos for spring/shocks? Whose are the stiffest, and which ones lower it the most? I like the idea of having the car low, really low, kinda like jimmy540's pics. I don't realyy drive it too much now, so I can handle my a$$ bouncing alot on bumps.

SO who has what, and where is a good place as far as price? I've seen that rotary performace has Suspension techniques, and Tokico, and Mazdatrix has ST, Racing beat and Eibach... Others?

FYI - 85 gsl-se
Thanks!

P.O.S. Racing

I’m in the process of revising the suspension on mine as well. Found the best prices so far at www.shox.com. I’m thinking of going with Tokico Shocks non-adjustable, Struts, and Springs package. I’m going more for the stock approach.

rx7gslse ,You going to be at Peddington this weekend?

rx7gslse

I'm not so worried about stock.. This isn't a show car or anything..

I might be there this weekend. Have not decided yet. Depends. I might head down to Houston. They are running a night autocross right by my fathers house on Saturday night. If not I'll at least be out there on Sunday. II've got some plans saturday night, and I'm not sure if I'll be awake early enough on Sunday to run..

Your plans?

P.O.S. Racing

I'm wanting to stick with stock class in SCCA & ER don't want to mod the car up to a level that would have me compete in a class where the motto would be, “he who spends the most money wins.” Mainly because I’m not going to spend the money! It would also be against the P.O.S. Racing bylaws…………. When you get a chance to see the fabled P.O.S. Racer you’ll see why it’s called the P.O.S. Racer, it lives up to its name proudly!

I’ll be at Peddington, and plan to run Waco near the end of the month.

P.O.S. Racing

I’m thinking of going with Tokico Shocks non-adjustable, Struts, and Springs package, does anyone have this setup on their car? What do you think of the set-up?

What are you running on your car, and how much of an improvement over stock is it? How much did it drop or raise the car?

rx7passion

i havnt had the tokico blues and springs but, im sure that is definitly the cheapest and most cost effective way to do it...
i have eibach springs with old illumina adjustables in the rear, works very excellent. the springs dropped my car about and inch to an inch and a half. made the car look alot better and handle 50x better.... without killing my kidneys either.

rx7gslse

alright.. POS, I'm heading to houston this weekend, so have fun out there on SUnday. I may be waiting another week or so still before any mopre money comes out of my pocket for the car... Layoff rumors are getting way too close for comfort. I'll still be out at Waco though.

nimrodTT

Seeing as how the first group registration just ended 6 minutes before I started this message, I'm thinking you wont read it till after you get back from the race. But I figured I should say I might be coming out to that auto-x tonight, not racing - (didnt get my race wheels in time - long story) so I guess I might see you out there then...

Cody

P.O.S. Racing

rx7gslse - Did you run the Houston event?

It was Hella Hot at Peddington Sunday!

F.Y.I. They announced that their could be a change on the Waco Event. They said to check the website for updates. Seems as if the President is going to be in Crawford, so we may not be able to run at the Airport.

Hope the rumors stay just rumors for you.

Still like to hear what suspension set-ups folks are running.

rx7gslse

how'd the weekend go? POS kick *** or what? I didn't end up making it out there. I went water skiing all day on saturday and by the time I got to my fathers place A) I was exhausted and B) it was about 10pm...

Yeah, they had said the same thing about the Pres out at the Mineral wells event. I'll keep my fingers crossed..

Still waiting for suspenion tips here.. People are welcome to add input

P.O.S. Racing

I was very much pleased with the performance of the P.O.S. Racer. Still think a majority of the cars problem is its driver. But then what are you going do! It’s still a bunch a fun!

I think some upgrades on the suspension would help, but it’s not looking like this thread is going to get us any information. Maybe everyone is still just running his or her stock suspension, except of course for rx7passion. Maybe we should try a new thread........

nimrodTT

hehe, you still could have made it to the autocross. They didnt finish the first group till 10:30pm so I figure the second group was running till something like 2am.

As for the suspension, try www.groundcontrol.com they have some good stuff

Cody

P.O.S. Racing

Thanks Cody! They even have a section for 1st gen at www.ground-control.com.

Did you run Cody? 2am that's pretty damn late, how many cars showed? Although night sounds better than the bake fest yesterday at Peddington!

rx7gslse

wow... That's sweet... Nice site. definately going to have to give them a call.. HAs anyone ordered stuff from them before? Do they make good suggestions as to what to use? They have so many variables, that I'm sure I could drasticaly improve or drastically worsen the situation...

Acuspeed

Don't know how helpful this would be as I have yet to take the 7 to an autocross w/my current setup, but I've been running Racing Beat springs with Tokico 'Blues' since this spring and think it to be a good setup. I have taken a few corners in a spirited manner, and she corners nice and flat and feels like she has plenty of grip. I am also (currently) running eurathane bushings up front in the control arms and sway bar and Yokahama AVS Intermediates in 205 60 13 size on some Panasport rims.

nimrodTT

Gorund Control knows what they are doing, and you might want to also check out G-force Engineering. I dont think they have a web site, but their phone number is (419) 423-3884 and their email is gforce@bright.net
They specialize in first gens so they make a better panhard bar than ground control and their tri-link setup is very popular. They also have springs, shocks, and bushings of all kinds.

No, I didnt get to race. I still dont have my wheels to put my race tires on, so there's no point in racing on worn out street tires. I only stayed for a few minutes and then had to run, looked like a bigger crowd than the day events - of course its hard to tell when its at a 'track' that I havent been to yet. Usually attendence is pretty high.

Also if anyone has some slightly used TMC springs and sway bar for sale - I'm interested.

Cody

JoseReyes

I have an 82 GSL and I run the Tokiko blues and the RB street/strip springs. They are a bit stiffer than stock, lower the car by 1" all around and when you make tight corner turns the car hugs the road and won't let go. I really love the way it handles. Like I said is not like the stock, rides a bit harder, but it can take punishment on turns...I would never go back to stock springs....

rx7gslse

g-force engineering, eh?

http://www.g-force-engr.com/home.html

that doesn't quite look like what I was looking for.. Interesting, maybe for a 3rd gen, but I don't think that's going to help me...

P.O.S. Racing

Does anyone happen to know what the weight difference is between a 13B and a 12A car? Did the 13B kill the 50/50 weight distribution?

Accuspeed and JoseReyes why did you guys go with the RB springs? Looks like their isn’t much $$$ difference between the Tokico springs. What made you decide to go with RB Springs?

Rx7passion, what made you decide to go with the Eibachs?

Also, does anyone know if someone has the SCCA Class rules on the web somewhere? Haven’t bought the rulebook yet, want to make ever effort to stay in my beloved C stock.

I’m just full of Questions this morning!

JoseReyes

Well, they were recommended by Atkins Rotary. They told me that the springs were much better at handling for AutoXing than the others and that quality was much better. Besides, after test driving one with the other sets and the one with RB springs, I definetly went with the RB. Then again, that is my personal opinion, which might not mean much.. In other words is just a matter of personal taste...Basically, I took the advice of an expert...Hey he's been on the business for a very long time, who should know better than him..definetly not me...just kidding. But he did recommended them over the others...

Acuspeed

Well, for me, the Racing Beat springs were closest to the spring rates that I wanted (the Eibachs were stiffer than what I was looking for), and added to that was the fact that they are made by Racing Beat. I figure they've been playing with rotaries since the early days, so they ought to know what would be good for the car (not to say the other options aren't high on quality as well tho).

rx7gslse

POS, don't quote me here, but I'm pretty sure that upgrading springs puts you into SP.. SP you can pretty much do whatever you want to the suspension as long as it uses the stock mounting points. From what I've also heard you can go with the 3-way adjustable shocks and stay "stock" but the 5-way throw you out...

I think I'm going to go full out..

Ground control coil over system up front w/ camber caster plates, race springs in the back, Illuminas on all 4 corners, adjustable front sway bar (reccomendations?), RB strut tower brace, and poly bushings whereever I can. I've heard just yanking the rear bar is the way to go, am I correct here? Doesn't look real cheap, roughly 1500$, but as long as I'm doing it...

P.O.S. Racing

Yea that's my concern. Would really prefer to stay in C-Stock, that way I don't blow my daughters collage fund on keeping up with the SP's. C Stock kind of forces me to keep the spending in check.

Can anyone confirm rx7gslse’s findings?

rx7gslse

yeah, I'm pretty sure that will throw me out of the stock class pretty quick It's going to be a month or so before I purchase this stuff, but determining what to get is good. I figure no matter what class I'm in I'll get whipped, so I'm going to do what I want to with the car. If I really cared only for autocross, then I supposed I'd attack the weight issue with the a/c and such, but I'm certainly not ready for that...

where was I going with this??

P.O.S. Racing

Don't know where you were going? I saw that -SE off of Bursey the other day, darn nice looking car!

If I change the springs I change my class , wonder if I can still get stock springs from Mazda?