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Old 01-27-03, 09:19 PM
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well, my friend's car got stolen, so i had to give him a ride to work today. on my way home, some dipshit cut over from the right lane into the left lane right in front of me and slammed on the brakes to make a left turn. pretty much stopped in 45 mph traffic. i hit the brakes and they locked up at the last second and i hit him at about ~20mph. he took off and ran through the redline, and i ran through it right after him. called my dad on my phone, told him what was happening, he wrote down his plates as i told it to him. followed him though about 10miles of back roads (he was trying to loose me) untill he got stopped at a stop light. i got out and looked at my car, and went to his window and asked him what his problem was, and he tried to play it off like nothing happened. the light turned green and my dad called at the same time, so i told him to pull over in a neighborhood so i could talk to him about it, well the **** kept going, and my dad told me since i already have my plates, and i didnt know the condition of my car, to come home.

after i hit him, my car made this WEIRD noise, but my oil psi and water temp stayed normal, found out and heat shield some how got bent and was rubbing the driveshaft.

anyways, to the damage.. hole in the licence plate, both front turn signals are knocked out/cracked, my bumper went under his so i have scrapes on that, and my header panel is dented like crazy. so, if any of yall have any of those parts (perferably in red) and want to sell them to me.. PLEASE!!!

what are yalls opinions on legal action? my dad's friend who is a cop said even though its technically his fault, i wouldnt be able to prove it and i would get a ticket for following to close, plus raise my insurance. but im thinking since i had to follow him for so long, it was a "hit and run" even though i hit him. this really ******* sucks, and to top it off, while we were under the car looking at the driveshaft, we found that my BRAND NEW tokico blue on the driverside rear is leaking its oil.


I HAD A GREAT F'N DAY!!!
Old 01-27-03, 09:36 PM
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Man, that really sucks! One thing though, he had to be embarrassed in his pitiful attempt to get away from a seven! Any damage to his car at all?
Can't help ya on the legal stuff, someone here jump in & help this guy!
Best of luck to ya!
Old 01-27-03, 09:39 PM
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well I know where I live that it matters not, you hit someone from beind then you are at fault, it sucks but here its the law.
Old 01-27-03, 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by TheTwinTurboRX-7
well I know where I live that it matters not, you hit someone from beind then you are at fault, it sucks but here its the law.
exactly what im thinking. i hit him in the rear, so im thinking ill get the fault.

it was funny watching him try to take turns in his old cavalier trying to loose me, no chance, just glad he didnt slam on the brakes again.

*sigh* i guess ill figure somehting out, i dont think im going to report it because my insurance doesnt need to get raised. hopefully i can get some parts off a forum member or from a junkyard. ill try to get some pictures later.
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what i want to know is how a cavalier could out-brake you.

oh wait.. this is the FIRST gen forum... my bad.


j/k really that sucks for you.

i had a friend tell me a story about how some girl at a redlight backed into him on purpose so that he would be declared at fault, which he was, and she could have existing problems with her car fixed.
Old 01-27-03, 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by VashtheStampede
i had a friend tell me a story about how some girl at a redlight backed into him on purpose so that he would be declared at fault, which he was, and she could have existing problems with her car fixed.

i would kill man.. i feel bad for that guy.. thast soo fucked up. some peopel are ******* retarded, and should be shot on site for living the life they do
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Geez! Accidents are terrible. I wish you the best with the repairs and any legal issues you may have.

Here's a story that might leave you feeling "not so bad":

A relative of mine was out in California on business driving down an 8-lane highway (one way is 8 lanes). He was in the 2nd lane in from the right. All of a sudden, he heard screeching noises coming from the passenger side of the car. The got louder and louder. He looked out the passenger window and saw a car flying towards him, perpendicular to his car. The other driver's car hit my relative's car (a Camry) and spun the Camry across 4 lanes of traffic doing multiple 360's. He ended up in the 2nd lane in from the left PERFECTLY straight going in the direction he was headed and hadn't hit any other cars. To make a long story short, the car was totalled and the guy that hit my relative was gone - hit and run. It's a miracle that he lived and that he didn't hit any more cars that day.
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Re: some people

Originally posted by onepointone


what are yalls opinions on legal action? my dad's friend who is a cop said even though its technically his fault, i wouldnt be able to prove it and i would get a ticket for following to close, plus raise my insurance. but im thinking since i had to follow him for so long, it was a "hit and run" even though i hit him. this really ******* sucks, and to top it off, while we were under the car looking at the driveshaft, we found that my BRAND NEW tokico blue on the driverside rear is leaking its oil.


I HAD A GREAT F'N DAY!!!
I wouldn't be so sure that you would be found at fault as the guy cut in front of you from another lane. The law is NOT so cut-and-dry with regard to rear-end collisions.
The fact that the guy left the scene of the accident really works in your favor, as it displays a sense of guilt on his part. I'd sue him, and leave the insurance people out of it, personally. -WG
Old 01-28-03, 01:22 PM
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Wasn't Robins accident similar? He got that big old check, not to mention this bastard shouldn't get away with the hit & run.
Old 01-28-03, 01:27 PM
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I agree, with WankelGuy. I dont know what the laws are like there, but here if you leave the scene of an accident no matter whos at fault. Youre in deep ****. And just because you hit him from behind, doesnt nessicarly make it your fault. Ive got a story to go with everyone else's.

My stepbrother was driving his swift on a 2-lane street behind a old lady. The old lady started to veer right so he thought she was going to make a right hand turn without her signal. So he went on the left side to pass her. Well, as he was passing her she cut left and he slammed into her. Turns out she was just cutting really wide to make a left had turn. But anyway, he filed something for it and got enough money to pay for another car and then some. Afterall it was a swift, the're pretty cheap anyway. Persue it!!!!
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The one big thing I can see here that may cause you some problems is proof? I mean obviously the damage is clear and some paint might be left on your body etc, but, wouldn't you need some witnesses or something to really back up your claims? In australia it's almost guaranteed that if you hit someone from behind you are at least blamed %50 no matter what on most cases.... good luck though man, coz that really sucks what happened!
Old 01-28-03, 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Mr_Rx7_Au
The one big thing I can see here that may cause you some problems is proof? I mean obviously the damage is clear and some paint might be left on your body etc, but, wouldn't you need some witnesses or something to really back up your claims?
The Father who received the phone call and wrote down the license plate number could actually be called as a witness. Remember that the burden of proof in a civil case is lighter, without the "beyond a reasonable doubt" requirement of a criminal case.
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Fight it, I don't 'bout where your from but in kansas if someone passes you and suddenly stops it's their fault. Just hope that A$$hole had some paint from your car rubbed off on his car. I would report it immdeiately, because who's the judge going to believe, the one who reported it to cops and or the one who acts like the whole thing happened. I would find out where the jerk lives and brick out ALL of his windows.
Just remember to wear rubber gloves and burn them after the crime and dispose of them somewhere other than your house. And don't forget to do it so no one witnesses it, no edivence, No crime.

That's my 2 cents!
Old 01-30-03, 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by jalvord_2003_68_01
Fight it, I don't 'bout where your from but in kansas if someone passes you and suddenly stops it's their fault. Just hope that A$$hole had some paint from your car rubbed off on his car. I would report it immdeiately, because who's the judge going to believe, the one who reported it to cops and or the one who acts like the whole thing happened. I would find out where the jerk lives and brick out ALL of his windows.
Just remember to wear rubber gloves and burn them after the crime and dispose of them somewhere other than your house. And don't forget to do it so no one witnesses it, no edivence, No crime.

That's my 2 cents!
******* harsh dude... i mean, im sure it was an accident because he would of stopped and called it in if he was after money. yea, i am pissed, but i also believe its WAY too late to report it now. a fellow member on the forum offered my $25 for a header panel and the turn signal lights, and my friend's friend does very high quailty paint jobs and offered me a deal since i got the bad end. i think it will be all good in a couple weeks, but help me god if another ******* ever does that **** again
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it wouldn't be hit-and-run, but it would be "leaving the scene of an accident", and yes, that would indicate guilt on his behalf, all this info would help you out in a court case. and yeah, I'd just take him straight to a civil law suit and sue him for damages...
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Doit dood, bu if you really dont you could try and get his phone # or soemthing form his plate # adn call him and tell him if he wont pay for the damages you will see him in court.. worht a shot.
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I'd say get someone you know, say they were in another car at the same time and seen what happened as a Witness, but when you go to report it, make sure not to mention that you know him/her in any way, and say you didn't report the accident right away because you were waiting for your witness (your friend) to call you back.
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Originally posted by MyRxBad
I'd say get someone you know, say they were in another car at the same time and seen what happened as a Witness, but when you go to report it, make sure not to mention that you know him/her in any way, and say you didn't report the accident right away because you were waiting for your witness (your friend) to call you back.
That kind of perfidy is totally unnecessary in this case.
Better to have the TRUTH on your side.
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He doesn't have proof of the truth though unless there is paint on the other guys car or some form of a witness.
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there'd be paint on the other guy's car if he went under his bumper, unless he was smart enough to use cut-wax on it.... and his dad could be used as a witness, like stated above.
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In a Civil proceeding, if it's found that the event "most likely" did happen, a guilty verdict could be awarded. The case doesn't have to be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt", like in a Criminal proceeding.
So the burden of proof is much lighter.
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Re: some people

Originally posted by onepointone
what are yalls opinions on legal action? my dad's friend who is a cop said even though its technically his fault, i wouldnt be able to prove it and i would get a ticket for following to close, plus raise my insurance. but im thinking since i had to follow him for so long, it was a "hit and run" even though i hit him. this really ******* sucks, and to top it off, while we were under the car looking at the driveshaft, we found that my BRAND NEW tokico blue on the driverside rear is leaking its oil.
I HAD A GREAT F'N DAY!!!
you could even be charged with driving without due care and attention, or some similar charge.. because no matter what if you hit someone from behind it's your fault..
it sounds to me like it's going to become a knock for a knock as you cant prove he was even there..

i know i sound harsh but thats the relality of it all :|
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