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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Should i get it anywayS?

"The quick engagement/disengagement requires careful driver attention - this disc is not recommended for street use." Racing beat says taht about their race/ sport clutch disk. Should i get that one still, its a 4 puck, but i use my car for every day driving, will it make me spin the tires everytime or soemthing? or will it sitll work similair to the stock one?.
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Never mind all of that, would ant of u recommecnd the Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch Disc & Pressure Plate from Mariah Motorsports? If so is that the only thing i would need to replace my clutch or ouwld i need a throwout bearings and **** still?

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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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also are the racing beat springs that lower ur car 1 inch just as good as the Eibach ones that lower 3/4, i need ne3w springs and the RB ones are alot cheaper
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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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The RB springs are a good all round spring for the street - a nice blend of comfort and handling.

Buy the clutch kit (3 pce) - why cheap out on the bearing when you already have it torn down?

I'll answer this one anyway - the 4 puk is not for the street - its a race clutch (unless you intend to launch at every light and never stop on inclines).
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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I had a 4 puck metal disk in a 300zx and a stock pressure plate over it. Its a driving experiance to say the least. It bites in everytime you take off. Its tolerable once you learn to drive it. But it someone else gets in your car there not going to be able to just drive off.

One last thing on that. It puts alot of stress on transmission components. I was racing a friend in his 3rd gen 7 with my Z. I was hurting his feallings to say the least till the last race of the night in my car. First gear was fine we launched side by side. My short shifter shot me into second in a less then a heart beat. let the clutch out. needless to say that the sounds from the transmission were the farthest thing on the planet from a smooth shift. It was the loadest grossest clanking metal masshing noises I ever heard. fortunately I had enough momentum from the first gear to roll into a 7/11 parking lot and let the car sit till I could come get it. Took my ford festiva to tow the Z home. Dont joke on the Festiva it also pulled a fiends 2nd gen 7 home that night. Pulled the drain plug out of the tranny it had about 2 inches of metal stuck to it and the tranny fluid was lumpy with chunks of metal. I got a junkyard tranny for 100.00 and was on the road again with out the 4 puck disk in two days.

Sorry about story time, just make sure the rest of the driveline can handle the extra stress applied. At least have easy access to parts

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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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I had a 4 puck metal disk in a 300zx and a stock pressure plate over it. Its a driving experiance to say the least. It bites in everytime you take off. Its tolerable once you learn to drive it. But it someone else gets in your car there not going to be able to just drive off.

One last thing on that. It puts alot of stress on transmission components. I was racing a friend in his 3rd gen 7 with my Z. I was hurting his feallings to say the least till the last race of the night in my car. First gear was fine we launched side by side. My short shifter shot me into second in a less then a heart beat. let the clutch out. needless to say that the sounds from the transmission were the farthest thing on the planet from a smooth shift. It was the loadest grossest clanking metal masshing noises I ever heard. fortunately I had enough momentum from the first gear to roll into a 7/11 parking lot and let the car sit till I could come get it. Took my ford festiva to tow the Z home. Dont joke on the Festiva it also pulled a fiends 2nd gen 7 home that night. Pulled the drain plug out of the tranny it had about 2 inches of metal stuck to it and the tranny fluid was lumpy with chunks of metal. I got a junkyard tranny for 100.00 and was on the road again with out the 4 puck disk in two days.

Sorry about story time, just make sure the rest of the driveline can handle the extra stress applied. At least have easy access to parts

Sean.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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haha that mustve sucked
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Northern 7
The RB springs are a good all round spring for the street - a nice blend of comfort and handling.

Buy the clutch kit (3 pce) - why cheap out on the bearing when you already have it torn down?

I'll answer this one anyway - the 4 puk is not for the street - its a race clutch (unless you intend to launch at every light and never stop on inclines).
yeah replace that bearing, I used a slightly used one $about 10 miles on it but it sat for months" in my 89 auto 2 manual conversion and now it makes tons of noise when I press in the clutch, very embarassing
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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yeah, throwout bearings have a tendancy to make tons of embarassing noises when they go out. Also, if it decides to blow up, it could allow your clutch release cylinder to push the throwout fork into the pressure plate/clutch assembly... not a good thing...
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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If you're going to do a clutch job, you should also replace the pilot bearing in the rearward end of the eccentric shaft while you have the tranny removed.
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by BigJim

Never mind all of that, would any of u recommend the Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch Disc & Pressure Plate from Mariah Motorsports
I would highly recommend it. My own CFDF clutch has survived three cars and two engines. The engine it's on now will soon be plucked and put into Furious Rex (It's a Rotary Performance 12A streetport number) once the present 147,000 mile 12A stocker succumbs to the sweet juice. I had the car out at Kennedale's 1/8th mile track and the CenterForce clutch easily took 4500 rpm clutch drops with 225/50/15s in the rear for tire....never smelled clutch burn all night despite 20+ runs...and, oh yeah, the clutch pedal was easy, just like they advertise...

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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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onew thing about all that, about the pilot and the throwout bearing, can i just use any with the centerforce one, or do i have to buy a special one of each, and wehre can ige t the pilot bearingi havnt seen them anywhere
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Old Sep 11, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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I think I had to get mine from a Mazda dealer IIRC.
Get the little grease seal, too.
A local auto parts store lends out a nice puller for free, I reworked the jaws slightly to fit the mazda part better.
When you go to install the bearing, grease the bearing and then put it in a plastic bag in the freezer for an hour. Then take the pre-greased bearing out of the bag and tap it in the hole with a 14mm deep socket while it's still cold. It'll slide right in. Seat it just deep enough to leave room for the seal. That's all I got.
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