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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Question Short shifter kits for FB?

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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http://www.mazdatrix.com/g4.htm

there is also other places. and i think someone on the forum here makes 'em. im sure youll hear.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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How about a short throw shifter. And one that doesn't cost 200 bucks....
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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are these not short throw????

Originally Posted by MazdaTrix
The shorter throw of these Short Throw Shifters is accompolished by changing the pivot point of the lever. The distance the **** travels when shifting is shortened to 3 1/2" from the original 6".
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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30 minutes to go: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

200 is too much, these work great unless you want the stock look, gregs, fbII, and( 83gsl....?) all have them and love em.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jorx81@aol.com
30 minutes to go: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT

200 is too much, these work great unless you want the stock look, gregs, fbII, and( 83gsl....?) all have them and love em.
thats not the same as a true short throw... that makes it harder to shift because it doesn't change the pivot point.... it just shortens the actual shifter... a short throw shifter changes the pivot point, hence making it just as easy to shift but you don't have to move too far... i did a chop job like this ebay shifter in my TII... it was more of a PIA than it was worth...
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Thanks for the 7th grade education. It does make it slightly harder to shift but they have a really great feel, stock shifters are too long. It's the most bang for your buck.
$30 plus a core and free shipping to anyone on the forum. Ask my references above!
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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i am chiming in right now. i have a short stance shifter from jorx81.... it kicks some serious ***. i have had people sit in my car and just get a feel of it and like it better than their 150 - 200 dollar "REAL" short throw shifter. his makes it really tight. i dont think it's harder to shift actually, only reverse. in fact, my slamming it in to third as fast as possible is a breeze now. especially compared to stock. for 30 friggin dollars, you really can not beat it.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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If making a short THROW shifter was as easy as making the stick shorter,they wouldnt cost 200 bucks.They're 200 bucks because its an engineered part.Albiet,not a wildly difficult part to engineer,all you need is a lathe and a measuring tape,but it isnt just a used Mazda part thats been cut and rethreaded.
I tried the short shifter when I was broke,it cant compare with a proper short throw unit.My opinion..........
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
If making a short THROW shifter was as easy as making the stick shorter,they wouldnt cost 200 bucks.They're 200 bucks because its an engineered part.Albiet,not a wildly difficult part to engineer,all you need is a lathe and a measuring tape,but it isnt just a used Mazda part thats been cut and rethreaded.
I tried the short shifter when I was broke,it cant compare with a proper short throw unit.My opinion..........
i think if you combine the 2 u'd be better off... a short throw shifter and a shortened shifter... thats just my 2 cents... along with my dollar up above
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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i got this one....http://rx7cz.net

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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thats a decent price. how do you like it?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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"think if you combine the 2 u'd be better off... a short throw shifter and a shortened shifter"

The only problem there would be increased effort.With the longer portion below the pivot point on the short THROW shifter,you lose some leverage advantage up top,even though the upper stick is stock height.This is because of the fulcrum point has effectively been raised.Combine that with an even shorter upper lever after you cut the stick down,(which means even less leverage advantage)and youll probably end up with tennis elbow after a years worth of shifting.Anyone wanna cut down a $200 short throw shifter to see?

.02 more cents, and I raise you a nickel,heh,heh.

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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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wow...i was bidding on that and am glad i lost!

i'll probably go with higgi's if its comparable to the racing beat...thanx for the link 1984SE
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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i've decided since i have an extra FB/S4 FC shifter laying around, tomorrow i'm going to start brainstorming on it and test making my own short throw shifter... and after i test the short throw part, i'll shorten it as well
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
"think if you combine the 2 u'd be better off... a short throw shifter and a shortened shifter"

The only problem there would be increased effort.With the longer portion below the pivot point on the short THROW shifter,you lose some leverage advantage up top,even though the upper stick is stock height.This is because of the fulcrum point has effectively been raised.Combine that with an even shorter upper lever after you cut the stick down,(which means even less leverage advantage)and youll probably end up with tennis elbow after a years worth of shifting.Anyone wanna cut down a $200 short throw shifter to see?

.02 more cents, and I raise you a nickel,heh,heh.

dude, we know the difference. 30 bucks for a tighter smoother shift now... 200 bucks for a shorter shift when im not poor. how many other people are gonna try and give lessons?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FB II
i am chiming in right now. i have a short stance shifter from jorx81.... it kicks some serious ***. i have had people sit in my car and just get a feel of it and like it better than their 150 - 200 dollar "REAL" short throw shifter. his makes it really tight. i dont think it's harder to shift actually, only reverse. in fact, my slamming it in to third as fast as possible is a breeze now. especially compared to stock. for 30 friggin dollars, you really can not beat it.

-zac
i have the same one from joe in my car, i was his test bunny so i got mine for free

i love it over the stock shifter, however geoffs mazdatrix short throw shifter is way better
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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i have one as well.. i love it and so does my girl.. she acttualy stole it for her fb. so i have to get another one.
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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If you already understand,then dont read it.
If you dont understand,maybe you just learned something....isnt that why were all here?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Thanks guys. I didn't know I would start a war with such a simple post.

Does jorx81 still offer the shifter?
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
If you already understand,then dont read it.
If you dont understand,maybe you just learned something....isnt that why were all here?
hey man, i'm sorry. that came off wrong. i just saw a couple people already give the explanation of the difference. again, i apologize. and when i finish this turbo setup, a "real" short throw shifter may be on the list. but i really do enjoy joes as of now. peace and axle grease!
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RX-187
Thanks guys. I didn't know I would start a war with such a simple post.

Does jorx81 still offer the shifter?


yes he does
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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yeah, check ebay
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Thanks for the back-up guys.
Anyone interested PM me.


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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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make it yourself, its not hard, you can change the bolt pattern too, so you can use a different **** im using an rx8 ****...i just need a six speed tranny now...lol
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