Second gen wiring harness upgrade
08-06-06, 02:38 AM
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Second gen wiring harness upgrade
Anyone know of anyone transplanting the S4 injection, injectors, and wiring harness (direct fire trailing and leading) to a GSLSE since its already injection. Yes I know you would have to switch over the intakes. I already did that. The point is I'd like the direct fire ignition and the ability to upgrade to a Power FC.
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What do I have to purchase to get an MSD box and coils to run direct fire from them???? This would probably have to incorperate the 2nd gen crank positon sensor also
OR......
What do I have to purchase to get an MSD box and coils to run direct fire from them???? This would probably have to incorperate the 2nd gen crank positon sensor also
Last edited by blazer1313; 08-06-06 at 02:46 AM.
08-06-06, 03:19 AM
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It can be done. You basically would need everything of an S4 (ECU, harness, intake, injectors, air flow meter, TPS, coolant temp sensor, coils, CAS, etc.). You may need to also add some of your own connections for power, fuel pump, and so on. I am not sure if it is worth the trouble or not. Perhaps an S5 setup would be better.
08-06-06, 05:38 AM
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The MSD is easy. You don't need a CAS or anything. You can use what you have. You can fire the MSD through the dizzy cap or can do a direct fire setup like firing the 2nd gen coil. The MSD setup will normally be just on the leading. You can do on the trailing with a 2nd MSD box firing through the dizzy cap. It is not worth it though, in my opinon. If you want to go the MSD route, check out the MSD-DIS setup that hyper4mance2k uses.
08-06-06, 08:03 AM
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You can't use S5 due to the electric OMP. The computer goes into "limp" mode if not working.
Going S4 is the only one you can use. instead of buying the power FC and then buying and swaping the old S4 equipment it'd be cheaper for you just to get a haltech or microtech instead.
They come with new harnesses and you get to lose the airflow meter and fully tunable which makes more power. Less work involved and a Cleaner engine bay too!!
That's my opinion.
Going S4 is the only one you can use. instead of buying the power FC and then buying and swaping the old S4 equipment it'd be cheaper for you just to get a haltech or microtech instead.
They come with new harnesses and you get to lose the airflow meter and fully tunable which makes more power. Less work involved and a Cleaner engine bay too!!
That's my opinion.
08-06-06, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JIMMY54
You can't use S5 due to the electric OMP. The computer goes into "limp" mode if not working.
Going S4 is the only one you can use. instead of buying the power FC and then buying and swaping the old S4 equipment it'd be cheaper for you just to get a haltech or microtech instead.
They come with new harnesses and you get to lose the airflow meter and fully tunable which makes more power. Less work involved and a Cleaner engine bay too!!
That's my opinion.
Going S4 is the only one you can use. instead of buying the power FC and then buying and swaping the old S4 equipment it'd be cheaper for you just to get a haltech or microtech instead.
They come with new harnesses and you get to lose the airflow meter and fully tunable which makes more power. Less work involved and a Cleaner engine bay too!!
That's my opinion.
08-07-06, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gsl-se addict
The MSD is easy. You don't need a CAS or anything. You can use what you have. You can fire the MSD through the dizzy cap or can do a direct fire setup like firing the 2nd gen coil. The MSD setup will normally be just on the leading. You can do on the trailing with a 2nd MSD box firing through the dizzy cap. It is not worth it though, in my opinon. If you want to go the MSD route, check out the MSD-DIS setup that hyper4mance2k uses.
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08-07-06, 08:24 PM
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I run an MSD 6AL with Direct Fire a la Paul Yaw's technique. It consists of 3 coils and one MSD 6AL. I'm not sure if Paul Yaw's way is the same as the other MSD setups; I've honestly never looked at any other setups. Considering I'm happy with the setup I have, I never took the time to research other direct fire set ups.
The leading plugs have their own coil. A third coil is connected to the dizzy and my trailing plugs are connected to the dizzy. So two coils for leading, one for trailing.
The leading plugs have their own coil. A third coil is connected to the dizzy and my trailing plugs are connected to the dizzy. So two coils for leading, one for trailing.
08-08-06, 01:26 AM
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so ok scrap the trailing with a seperate 2nd MSD box. Anyone know which MSD ignition box has a RPM trigger? I want to turn on an air pump to open my 6 ports at a certain RPM...
