Mr Rotary

Damn, be a lot more careful guys.

Antonio

Putting Hawk pads on. wearing a 5 point harness. nothing is gonna save you if you are racing on the street. Because if you are racing on the street you are endangering lives. less important is your life if you are putting people at risk. I feel for that guy but you reap what you sow.

mperformance

did you read that? just checkin'

peace

mar3

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As a critical asides, I feel that as an irresponsible party, I must point out that there's street-racing and then there's street-racing. Driving like an idiot trying to play catch up or tag with other speeding vehicles is simply asinine. It's not street-racing, though. It's just plain stupid driving. If you die doing this, then nature has selected your genes out of the pool and, friend or not, no tears from my eyes will fall for you. At the same time, driving is a serious responsibility. If you're driving with blinders, then you also deserve to be selected out by Nature. Start riding a bus. As the UPS mantra goes, "Space on all sides, but always in front." I see way too many people driving with their forward blinders 10 ft in front of the car. "There's my exit!"...and then they cross 4 lanes to get to it without looking back or clearing their lanes visually. Completely unaware of the position of vehicles around them because they weren't scanning their mirrors every 5 to 8 seconds. It's been 2 years since I left the Evil Empire and even my habits are slipping. That's exactly why I paid the price when I didn't leave space in front as the old man pulled his rental Caddy into my lane. I walked away from that one, like I've done two times before (the previous were pre-UPS....), and I keep wondering what I'm supposed to be doing if I'm being given these chances to stay on our earthly plane. I still street race, but all of the participants and spectators know the risks (the small ones being tickets, impoundment of vehicles or even a little jail time, which I do not recommend in Dallas... ) and still show up. We've all heard the stories of people losing control and going into the crowd, but no one's actually been at the site of one of these stories...always "they know someone that was there"...All of these activities have always been on straight streets with a lot of run-off and dead of night. I've have actually seen one accident, but the car was able to leave under its own power. These are what would be categorized as calculated risks. This is what the real street race scene is about. Everyone is there on purpose, so never feel sorry or judge the individuals if something terrible happens...You take the same risk everytime you step into your car and drive on public roads,but now you are open to the uncontrollable actions of other drivers. Driving like a jackass on public roads with other non-involved cars around you is not street-racing and I'm getting sick of the media, law enforcement and others that keep throwing this stereo-type/label on every accident that happens out there because some kid just got his new GT and is playing street tag with another fool that needs to be selected out of the gene pool...I will now step of off my irresponsible platform/soap box...that will be all, as you were...

Barwick

a rollcage is a false sense of security. Few reasons:


First - With a rollcage if you don't have a helmet you're SCREWED

Second - Rollcages are mostly meant to prevent roof collapse during a rollover. They help a little bit to protect during a side/front/whatever impact, but it's more successful for stiffening up the chassis than it is for "super safety". Just know, it's better than stock, but not going to keep you alive in super high speed accidents.

jeremy

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ok, reading wll of these posts i've decided i'm going to to put in an 8 point cage, where my helmet at all times, and fill the cabin with foam pieces.

seriously, i agree with mar3 in that the races are held at warehouses, etc, away from the public were the participants and spectators all know the risk. same thing when you go skiing or something. you know its there.

mperformance

Well I think we all agree, not everybody that streetrace is a ******** and nobody is safe even when racing in a safe place including a track. It's dangerous but MAN WHO ARE WE KIdding...that's the whole point of racing.

Once hooked it's like a drug...there should be an AA group for people with this problem (if some want to call it that<---first step is to acknowledge that one has a problem), or addiction.

I agree with mar3 and jeremy....my views exactly.

mar3

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To all those that believe any street racing is foolish, I'll toss this fuel on their rage...I believe it was Gurney who said it, but I'm not really sure...

"To win First, you must first win...", ie., you gotta finish...

MikeLMR

Sorry to hear about your loss

A properly fitted multipoint roll cage WILL protect from side impacts. I have seen the results of a 120 MPH side impact with an oak tree on a group A Escort Cosworth and all I can say is the guy owes his life to the roll cage in that car.

A roll cage does not make you invincible but Its better than nothing

We run a 6 point bolt in cage on our Road Rally Car in the UK (yes it is a legal form of M'sport and in no wayrelated with the road racing you speak of) and due to the laws of the land we are not permitted to wear helmets in the car. We do however use 4 point harnesses which prevent most movement within the car and we run a lot of roll cage padding. I wouldn't be without a roll cage in any form of motorsport. Just my opinion.

Mark'sMazda

very sad story. Just wanted to let you know that a 5-point harness is probally going to be more dangerous than a standard 3pt one. I put a 5-pt and raning seat in my previous car, and with that harness you can't turn around to see what's behind you when reversing, can't lean forward to see when you are pulling out of somewhare and there is somthing bolcking your vision, and can't turn around to check your blind spot. I would guese that 90% of the time you will only wear the lap belt. Im not the only one, every one that I know that has a harness in a street car does the same thing.

I got into an accident (16yr old girl pulled right out right in front of me). I smacked my head on the wheel, and the sholder belts whiped me in the ribs. Everyone says that they will use them at all times and do at first but on the street they are very impractal

jmseven

You mean YZF-r6...

I know more people that died from using that particular bike, and funny as it sounds..Not the r1. Just last week, a friend told me that his neighbor (someone I’ve meet). He just passed two weeks ago from this day...another r6 victim.

Back in the very late '80's and early 90's when import street racing in So. Cal was getting super hot......Redline racing was experimenting w/ turbo setups on Integra’s....they always blew....too bad. I don't know anyone here who remembers "BLUE-THUNDER"? Anyway, I have seen MANY serious crashes...some w/ roll bars and some w/o...not a pretty sight in any case. Most head injuries are always fatal. Your head is the egg that always gets scrambled.

I used to street race, autox, and drag my T2...with some level of success and barely held on to a license. I used to be an idiot. Yes an idiot until I learn my lesson.

I launched my hopped-up (daily driver) CRX off of a hill. Yes, not a typo....launched! I just got back from a VERY long vacation. That morning to work it slightly drizzled. Just 3 blocks from work...nice .5 mile straight away uphill.....a dragger heaven. Then BAM...I hit a construction floor plate...my car immediately looses control. I start to swerve into the next lane..….oncoming car over the crest. I did not counter steer. It was too late. I just barely missed that car...I went off of the hill. The boarder wire fence caught my car and wrapped it. It kept me from completely flying off and tumbling.

That was a SERIOUS wake up call.... no one could believe that I survived.

From then no more street ANYTHING! From then I got into motorcycles. I first started motocrossing…..can you say….Hang Town! Then got into street bikes….then track dayz..can you say…Thunderhill! This is were safety is at its HIGHEST. I have had a few spills, nothing but low sides. Then, the idiot comes back. I go up to the hill on a quest to Boulder Creek with some of my track buddies. Ripping, draggin…..all of a sudden…my front goes out. It started as a low side, but becomes a serious high side. Me being an idiot, hang onto the handlebars WISHING I could get back. The front grips then flips me completely over…HIGH SIDE. I landed on my back sliding towards the steel boarders. I hit that and somehow flipped over it. I found myself hanging off of the mountain, with my legs resting on a bush. Well I broke my humerus bone. Again, I was lucky, but smart enough to have worn my leathers.

That was my SECOND SERIOUS wake up call….now the idiot dies.

I will not longer participate in any road going speed, except for HWY 280 and 80….those are my two exceptions. I do EVERYTHING on the track.

I hope everyone learns that there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR on the street, NONE.

eddierotary

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jees. ill better slow down. im a hard foot a lot of time. i can get killed too. i learn a valueble lesson today, don't street race.

Felix Wankel

yzf-r1= resident evangelist in the lounge.