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Old 08-06-08, 12:18 AM
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Very nice. makes me want to get mine all cleaned up now. And I would if I didn't already have too many projects started already. lol

Hopefully soon.
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Very nicely done on a budget refurbish, TG. Stu, I've never been a fan of gold wheels, but that's the finest set I've ever seen, look almost anodized.
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Thanks a lot Tim! I'm still running on 17 year old Goodyear Eagles that look great but are not safe. Love the look of the RWL. Going with the Cobras after seeing that the 205/60/13's also fit the space well.

Your restored wheels + new tire combination look fantastic!
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Thanks for all the comments and drool!

One of the reasons I did this was to hopefully inspire folks to refurb their own waffle wheels. Its not hard to do and it will cost you about a day and 40 bucks to do this.

Now I see Ray (ray_green) has upped the anty by repainting his back windshield trim. I hope he decribes how he did that cause mines looking scraped and has shiney spots on it.
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
Thanks for all the comments and drool!

One of the reasons I did this was to hopefully inspire folks to refurb their own waffle wheels. Its not hard to do and it will cost you about a day and 40 bucks to do this.

Now I see Ray (ray_green) has upped the anty by repainting his back windshield trim. I hope he decribes how he did that cause mines looking scraped and has shiney spots on it.
I've started doing this. So far I've gotten the pieces that go through the glass and connect to the lift supports. I'm very happy with how they turned out. I'll have to get you before and after shots. I have some, somewhere. I found that what works great is using a quick drying semi gloss, then a clear coat on top of that. The quick drying paints are thinner than the regular paints and tend to be easier to work with to get a good finish. It just take more coats. The thicker paints tend to get uneven if you have any change in surface material (like if you have some sanded to bare metal and some with paint still on it). The paint that I used was Krylon Semi gloss black (dries to touch in 12 minutes) and a Rustolium clear coat. The Rustolium crystal clear is about the same thickness as the Krylon semi gloss black, so it works great.

Like most painting, the prep is the most important. I took it down to the bare metal and worked my way up to 1000 grit sandpaper before I started painting. I knew it was ready when it looked like it was a finished metal piece. Almost wanted to just put the clear coat on it and call it good, but it wouldn't have gone with the rest of the car. lol

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Love the white-raised-letters look. Really suits the era of the cars!
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The wheels look great!

So what did the tires cost you and where did you get them at?
Old 11-12-08, 07:14 AM
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They cost about 80 bucks a piece mounted and balanced by Dove's Tire here in Huntersville NC. A lot of independent tire places can get you cooper tires. Not sure if the national chains (NTB, etc) can get them or not. Dove's had to get them for me, it tooks a couple of days but the price was better than getting them online and having them mounted and balanced for me.
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Nice job, good thread tim!
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Thread back from the dead. Thanks Banzia.

So far the wheels still look real like new. Just have to clean em every few
weeks, especially the fronts
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good job Tim, they look really nice
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Back from the dead again. Tim, can we get some update photos???
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I have to figure out how much of this procedure I can follow without demounting tires. If I go forward with getting my lug bolts rechromed, I'll have about a week where the wheels will be off the car.
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I want to do this to my rotax wheels then sell them.
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Originally Posted by ray green
Back from the dead again. Tim, can we get some update photos???
Next time I wash the car I'll snap a few. Over all the wheels still look real good.
I am seeing some stains but I'm not sure what caused them. The clear coat is
still holding up real well, no peeling or lifting that I can see.

Originally Posted by DivinDriver
I have to figure out how much of this procedure I can follow without demounting tires. If I go forward with getting my lug bolts rechromed, I'll have about a week where the wheels will be off the car.
Its really easier to unmount the tires. If you leave the rubber on you could try
putting the wheels up on blocks or something so the tires don't sit in the acid
runoff too long while you treat each side. Also do the fronts sides last when
cleaning them up. That way any slight drips or etching is on the backside where
you don't see it so easily.
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"Next time I wash the car I'll snap a few"

Pics or it didn't happen.
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correction to last post. I have Almex wheels on my SA. I will be selling cheap if I dont clean them but if I follow this how to they wont be cheap
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Originally Posted by dream36realms
correction to last post. I have Almex wheels on my SA. I will be selling cheap if I dont clean them but if I follow this how to they wont be cheap
Hmmm, I think you need to start your own thread in the classifieds real soon then.
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I'd have thought the tire mounting process would have beat up the clear-coat on the lips... does it survive OK?
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
I'd have thought the tire mounting process would have beat up the clear-coat on the lips... does it survive OK?
No issues and I requested no weights on the lips so they look nice and clean. The
tire mounting stuff really just slips under the lip between the tire and the wheel
to do its thing so it doesn't mess up anything you could see anyway.
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Ok got some pics of my wheels 3 years later.

This is a pic of one of the wheels and is representative of most of them.



This is a pic of a wheel that has some grunge on it. Not sure what it is but I haven't
scrubbed it real hard yet.



And this is just a close up of how the finish still looks.

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Still looking grand for three years in... 'specially the way YOU drive (I keed, I keed).

Bought my paint last night, and pulled out my spare to see clearly where the original paint starts and stops.

I tested a couple of squirts of the paint on an old brake cylinder (pretty much the same cast finish as the wheels) - - I cannot see any difference in color or texture between the original paint and the new stuff, even in bright sunlight.

Going for it, with tires in place, starting tonight. Wish me luck. Photos to follow, but only if it turns out good.

I may forego the clearcoat, so that I can re-polish the edges on occasion. Haven't completely decided yet. I use old-school clip-on balance weights.
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Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Still looking grand for three years in... 'specially the way YOU drive (I keed, I keed).
I just did 1200 miles through the smokies on I40 going up to Indianapolis 2 weeks
ago. Nothing like weaving up and down the mountains at speed, even with these
tires it was a blast.

Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Bought my paint last night, and pulled out my spare to see clearly where the original paint starts and stops.

I tested a couple of squirts of the paint on an old brake cylinder (pretty much the same cast finish as the wheels) - - I cannot see any difference in color or texture between the original paint and the new stuff, even in bright sunlight.
Yeah that paint is a great match, we got lucky this time.

Originally Posted by DivinDriver
Going for it, with tires in place, starting tonight. Wish me luck. Photos to follow, but only if it turns out good.

I may forego the clearcoat, so that I can re-polish the edges on occasion. Haven't completely decided yet. I use old-school clip-on balance weights.
Either way get some pics up in here when its done. Waffles need love too!
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Tim;

Is there any way you can verify the product code from the paint you used - if you still have the can on hand.

Is it HWP-101, or HWP-102?

Having been unable to find "light grey" wheel paint from Duplicolor, I went with the HWP-101. It looked good on a small area test, but now that I've finished my wheels, it looks slightly too bright compared to my OEM spare.

Too late for me to change, and they still came out looking grand IMO, but I suspect the color you used is HWP-102 (Graphite).

Be good to know for future reference.
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I have begun cleaning up a pair of waffles for my SA I hope to get them as nice


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