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Old 12-14-11, 08:35 AM
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ReSpeed rear coil Problems

So I think I at least have them setup right. Pull the stock rubber spring rests from the top, adjuster collar goes in place of the rest with the lip toward the top, and the spring goes in with the flat side down on the axle perch.
If I have that wrong, I'm sorry, Please correct me.
If I have that right, then here is my problem. On the drivers side, the adjuster is all the way adjusted for max height. On the passenger side, the adjuster is set all the way for minimum height. Despite the 2 differences in height settings the car is sitting perfectly level in my driveway at the moment. There is a little spring noise coming from the rear as I drive.

Just to be sure, is this normal? Doesn't seem like it and I'd rather explore all my options before I give Sam more hell over these things.
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Need alittle more info before we can help you.
Are you using stock springs or aftermarket, what brand and size/lbs?
From what you are describing, it sounds like the flat side should not be on the axle perch, there is a groove for the spring to set in so it doesn't twist. Once again knowing what springs you are using would really help.
Pics are also good for these questions as well.(pic with body jacked up and springs released.)
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Its all Re-Speed stuff, 150 spring rate. I'll get some pictures when I can but it wont be till later in the day.
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it sounds like your springs are upside down, the axel end needs to be rotated to sit on the perch correctly when installed.
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Well with the respeed kit there is an open end to the spring, are you saying there is a spot that the open end will lock into on the axle?
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The spring perch on the axle isn't flat, it curves to follow that open side of the spring. There really isn't anything to "lock" it in, but it isn't going anywhere once the weight of the car is on it.
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Cool thanks for the info ill fix that now then
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Ah, I see it now. Just to be sure, the rest of the setup sounds right?
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You may have some seized bushings too
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It's fine now, I flipped the springs over and locked them in and its perfect now. Thanks for all the help. And I guess if a mod wants to close this thread to stop useless bumping then go for it.
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Originally Posted by Jingkun
Ah, I see it now. Just to be sure, the rest of the setup sounds right?

I don't have that setup on my car, but yeah it sounds correct.
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Cool thanks for all the help. As for the bushings I've replaced almost half of them watts link and rear control arm is all thats left.
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Yeah, it sounds like you've got it right. The reason it still sits level, even though one side is adjusted high while the other is low, is just because one side is holding everything up. Don't drive it like that, it could get interesting.

And if you loosened any suspension arm bushings, or links, during the installation then make sure that you perform the final tightening of those parts while the suspension is loaded (weight on the wheels).




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that is strange. I don't have any kind of locks on my coils.

How would I lock mine?
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They don't really lock, its just a fitted recess on the axle
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Jingkun - you should take a few pics of your setup so people in the future can use this thread as a reference if they have the same problems.
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I might have to do that soon sadly T.T
Kentetsu help me out here. I've got everything all level and mostly comfortable. My question to you sir is do you notice an excess amount of noise from the rear at all, mostly say in driveways and the like. I'm just getting alot of noise back there and while the fronts are performing great with little to no roll, the rears aren't doing the same and I've almost maxxed them out. Excessivey springy in the rear, and the other day the rear end decided to step out on me by about 2 feet on a corner and almost took out a parked car because of it.
As for pictures, I'll take them when I go to fix it.
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The noise is due to the fact that the springs are actually 5 inch diameter and the stock springs are 4.5 inch diameter, so they move a bit causing noise. Did you replace your rear dampers as well? If not they could be worn out and they aren't able to control the 150lb spring. What sway bar are you running? How fresh are you tires? Was the road wet or dry?
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Dry or wet, doesn't matter. Rear dampers? you mean those rubber things at the top of the stock spring? I pulled those. Tires are about 60%. Stock sway bar. Currently stock watts bushings soon to be replaced by energy. Its not related to most of that I'm sure though. Its the sound of constant settling of the spring.
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Ah right, damper-struts, haha got it. damn i'm tired. yeah tokico blues all around.
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I was referring to your mention of the car getting loose taking a corner, in that case the road conditions do matter. Does the car feel unstable often or is there a chance you took the corner too aggressively?
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Ah fair enough, I keep thinking of the noise and the looseness of the rear in general. The road was dry, personally I don't think I took that corner too aggressively, I've handled tighter corners at higher speeds without it stepping out on me like that. I've heard that removing the rear sway bar can loosen the rear end but I'm not sure if that is what I'm looking for to help this or if I need a larger sway bar. Don't suppose anyone else could take a picture of their rear spring setup, that's the only thing that no one on here seems to have is pictures of their rear springs.


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