Request 1st gen Wheel Pic Comparisons - 15mm vs 20mm vs. 40mm offset, etc.
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Originally Posted by 20bdreams
heres some pics of the japanese 1st gens that i was talking about.........this is exactly the look im looking for but again, most of these sites are in japanese and all these cars are owned by japanese guys, i cant really ask them what fitments they went with.
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/09.JPG
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/30.JPG
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/01.JPG
http://www.22cworks.com/img_shizuokamtg/sa_hide.jpg
http://www.22cworks.com/img_shizuokamtg/sa-satoru.jpg
http://www.22cworks.com/menu_gallery.html
http://www.geocities.jp/sa22c_drag/g...53005624_2.jpg
http://www.geocities.jp/sa22c_drag/g...52975307_2.jpg
theres a whole bunch more but im pretty sure you get the picture. its obvious the japanese, american , and even australian 1st gen all have different styles.
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/09.JPG
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/30.JPG
http://www.re4life.com/Galleries/Mem...eeting1/01.JPG
http://www.22cworks.com/img_shizuokamtg/sa_hide.jpg
http://www.22cworks.com/img_shizuokamtg/sa-satoru.jpg
http://www.22cworks.com/menu_gallery.html
http://www.geocities.jp/sa22c_drag/g...53005624_2.jpg
http://www.geocities.jp/sa22c_drag/g...52975307_2.jpg
theres a whole bunch more but im pretty sure you get the picture. its obvious the japanese, american , and even australian 1st gen all have different styles.
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Originally Posted by dark mephisto
I have a mariah wide body kit, i tried e-mailing mariah motorsports but they never answered me back. anyone know what size of rims are good with this body kit?
16 x 8 offset = positive 16 mm for front 225 x 50 16 tires
16 x 9 offset = positive 32 mm for rear 245 x 45 16 tires
The wheels are from Diamond Racing.
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sorry I had to use the search tab..and found this..
ok but what about if you already have Racingbeat springs....
do you use the same 15x7 20mm offset that all are talking about..will this clear and be fine?
do you use the same 15x7 20mm offset that all are talking about..will this clear and be fine?
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When compared to the stock "+" wheels and stock 185/70-13 tires:
A 15x7 with +15 offset and 205/50-15 tires have the exact same clearance between the tire/wheel and strut. They also have 20mm less clearance between the tire and fender lip. Rolling the lips may be needed in some cases.
A 15x7 with +20 offset and the 205/50-15 has 5mm less clearance between the strut and tire/wheel. Usually not a problem. They also have 15mm less clearance between the tire and fender lip. This is usually not a problem, but rolling the fender lips may be needed in extremely low cars.
Therefore, on a non-SE suspension setup, 15x7 wheels with an offset in the +15 to +20 range should not have any tire rub issues when fitted with 205/50-15 tires, although rolling the fender lips may be advisable for lowered cars.
A 15x7 with +15 offset and 205/50-15 tires have the exact same clearance between the tire/wheel and strut. They also have 20mm less clearance between the tire and fender lip. Rolling the lips may be needed in some cases.
A 15x7 with +20 offset and the 205/50-15 has 5mm less clearance between the strut and tire/wheel. Usually not a problem. They also have 15mm less clearance between the tire and fender lip. This is usually not a problem, but rolling the fender lips may be needed in extremely low cars.
Therefore, on a non-SE suspension setup, 15x7 wheels with an offset in the +15 to +20 range should not have any tire rub issues when fitted with 205/50-15 tires, although rolling the fender lips may be advisable for lowered cars.
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I haven't noticed a difference in the handling. I had 13" wheels with Potenza HRs on it before, so I was a little concerned about how it would handle compared to those, but as yet, I see no difference. I thought the ride would be rougher with the lower profile tires, but it actually seems to ride better. Onlyonthurs was also my inspiration for getting them after he posted pics of them on his white RX. With the new paint job, my car actually looks better thanit did when I bought it new!
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Dark Mephisto and 20bdreams, both the Mariah wb kit and the 3" flares will increase the body width about the same amount. From the fitment experience with my Epsilons and the CP Racing knock off of the old Pacifica widebody kit, which is a bit wider than either flares or the Mariah kit, Epsilons, 15X7/8 with a 4.75" backspace would fill out either set up.
For a correct measurement on the Mariah kit, ask Steve84gs, but I believe he's running spacers too. On the wb, I'm running 15X7 front and 15X9 rear, both have the same backspace of 4-3/4". Neither the front or the back wheels are wide enough to fill the fenders to the lips. The fronts are nearly 2" too narrow and the rears are 1" too narrow. I'm in the process of installing a ReSpeed big brake kit, front for now, so I can install the 15X9 and 15X10 SSRs I got from Japan. Backspacing on these wheels is 5-3/16" which should still clear. I'll know later tonight when I have the fronts installed. I did need to use 7/64" spacers on the fronts to clear the 4-piston calipers, but that was due to wheel center interference, not backspacing.
Dark Mephisto, if you look through Maria's website a a bit further, they offer steel wheels for their widebody kits, if it were me, I would find something matching their specs in a style you like.
20B, my suggestion for you is decide how wide of tire you want to run, buy and install the fender flares, then use the following website to pick wheels and tires that will fill out the space.
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html
Fwiw, since the SSRs were hitting the 2nd gen calipers, I tried fitting an S4 TII wheel, without a tire. These have around a 6" backspace and cannot even be bolted up to the 2nd gen hub before the rim lip hits the strut. Where it hits the strut, I'm guessing I would need 1" wheel spacers at a minumum for clearence.
For a correct measurement on the Mariah kit, ask Steve84gs, but I believe he's running spacers too. On the wb, I'm running 15X7 front and 15X9 rear, both have the same backspace of 4-3/4". Neither the front or the back wheels are wide enough to fill the fenders to the lips. The fronts are nearly 2" too narrow and the rears are 1" too narrow. I'm in the process of installing a ReSpeed big brake kit, front for now, so I can install the 15X9 and 15X10 SSRs I got from Japan. Backspacing on these wheels is 5-3/16" which should still clear. I'll know later tonight when I have the fronts installed. I did need to use 7/64" spacers on the fronts to clear the 4-piston calipers, but that was due to wheel center interference, not backspacing.
Dark Mephisto, if you look through Maria's website a a bit further, they offer steel wheels for their widebody kits, if it were me, I would find something matching their specs in a style you like.
20B, my suggestion for you is decide how wide of tire you want to run, buy and install the fender flares, then use the following website to pick wheels and tires that will fill out the space.
https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html
Fwiw, since the SSRs were hitting the 2nd gen calipers, I tried fitting an S4 TII wheel, without a tire. These have around a 6" backspace and cannot even be bolted up to the 2nd gen hub before the rim lip hits the strut. Where it hits the strut, I'm guessing I would need 1" wheel spacers at a minumum for clearence.
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thanks for the info..
I haven't noticed a difference in the handling. I had 13" wheels with Potenza HRs on it before, so I was a little concerned about how it would handle compared to those, but as yet, I see no difference. I thought the ride would be rougher with the lower profile tires, but it actually seems to ride better. Onlyonthurs was also my inspiration for getting them after he posted pics of them on his white RX. With the new paint job, my car actually looks better thanit did when I bought it new!
thanks again
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I'm not sure if you are talking about mine, but you were indeed the inspiration for me getting those wheels, after I saw the pics you posted. I think they really look great on a white car.
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PLEASE HELP!!! How are you all fitting 15 x 7 Rewinds with a +20mm offset???
I just bought a pair of silver ones for my 1984 GS FB, and they WONT FIT IN THE FRONT! Not even close. It looks like I need a 1 inch adapter to make them fit. What's the secret???
I just bought a pair of silver ones for my 1984 GS FB, and they WONT FIT IN THE FRONT! Not even close. It looks like I need a 1 inch adapter to make them fit. What's the secret???
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The top inner portion of the tire runs into the springs in the front. I cannot even bolt up the wheel because it hits.
My car is a 1984 with the original stock suspension.
Wheels are Konig Rewind 15 x 7 with +20 offset.
205 tires.
Any ideas why?
My car is a 1984 with the original stock suspension.
Wheels are Konig Rewind 15 x 7 with +20 offset.
205 tires.
Any ideas why?