lemonade

could i get a check list of everything i need to do a EFI TII swap using a stand alone ecu. lets say, a microtech, ltx-8s (or 12s, i dont know which one uses the bosche ignition coils)

i'll try to get everything i can:

TII engine
turbo manifold
turbo
downpipe
intake manifolds
throttle body
injectors (what size for a streetport?)
FMIC

(what sensors are needed for a this engine to run on a microtech?)
CAS
oil temp
coolant temp
throttle position
map sensor?

4 boshe ignition coils?
microtech ECU
TII transmission
shortened driveshaft
fuel injection fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator
fuel filter
AN lines for fuel

mounting im confused on, i need a GSL-SE front cover, then a SE oil pan? or the TII oil pan? what about the oil pick ups

speaking of oil:
drill and tap the front cover for the oil drain
split an oil feed to turbo from the oil filter
premix....



now did i miss anything, or am i incorrect about any of it? thats for the help...if i get any.

BY THE WAY!!!!!! I DID A BUNCH OF SEARCHES BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE FORUM OR ALL THE THREADS ARE DELETED BECAUSE NOTHING SHOWED UP

lemonade

anyone?

Max7

Use the SE oil pan, and you can use the stock T2 coils with one of the Microtecs.

FB II

use 6 1600cc injectors. (you will need an added fuel rail for this. ) on top of that, remove the throttle plates so you can get maximum airflow. dont get discouraged tho, if you use a .5bar map sensor you will be set. WWOOOOOOO!!!!!!! nah, you know how i feel about this setup. ..... i smell......... SIIIIIIDEEE DRAAAAAAAAFT.

lemonade

dont worry, im looking into that option too

chuck8313BTSDS

Fuel system 900$ http://www.sdsefi.com/specific.html
SDS has its draw backs but was very simple to install and tune. No ignition, fuel only. I liked the 1st gen dizzy ignition for simplicity. CONs- no dataloging, primary and secondary injectors have to be the same size, fuel only. PROs- price, easy to install and fuel only. (Currently running 4 1000cc injectors with good idle.) http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=41 Stock turboII fuel rails and FPR.

Injectors 45$ for 6 x 680cc injectors from pick-n-pull. SDS ran 4 injectors and an AIC ran two sub injectors. Reason for using an AIC, SDS can only control four injectors of the same size and the 680s were what I could afford and already had an AIC. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=82 Also built my own UIM using a 3” t-body from a GM product. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=83 Used a S4 N/A fuel rail and FPR for the sub injectors.
http://www.sdsefi.com/techinta.htm Instructions on building your own UIM.

External fuel pump 250$ for two pumps. AirTex E8248 Rated at 60-70 per hour at 40 psi. Max working pressure is 125 psi. http://home.earthlink.net/~jopeterson/CFI-EFI.html https://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/mfr,NGK (currently running 4x1000cc injectors off one pump, no pressure loss at 1.5 bar of boost.) Made my own fuel surge tank, http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=96 with two external fuel pumps with there own stock FPRs. One pump for the SDS operated injectors and one pump for the two sub injectors. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...to&PhotoID=500
Link to building your own surge tank. http://www.sdsefi.com/techsurge.htm Carb fuel tanks are fitted with small 5/16 tubing, EFI fuel pumps needs 7/16 min. fuel line to the pump. 3 options- use a gsl-se fuel tank, modify the carb tank or make a fuel surge tank.

Turbocharger 700$ T3 .82 A/R stage III wheel .70 A/R 60mm inducer. http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/gart3w82artu.html No turbo lag!
Was told this turbo was too small for a rotary. For anything over 400rwhp, yes, but for me it was perfect. 11.7et at 122mph at 19-22psi everyday all day with the S4 N/A motor. (I think 300-325rwhp is manageable/reliable at 15 psi with a good front mount intercooler.) I went with the T3 turbo because it was the turbo I had.

Motor 500$ 86 N/A with 9.4 rotors. Bought two motors from pick-n-pull to make one good motor. With Atkins apex seals. http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...me.php?cat=603 Port matched the turboII LIM to the N/A motor. Used a gsl-se front cover, oil pan and oil pick up tube. My turbo oil return went to the oil pan. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...to&PhotoID=164
Cut an oil pick up tube. Turbo feed line was -4 with a restrictor to limit oil volume. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=84
Intercooler 250$ I made my own water/air intercooler. Used a 12 volt water pump and cooler mounted in the back to keep the water cold. The intercooler held 4 gallons of water, the cooler box held 15 lbs of ice. Intercooler core measured 13x9x3.5. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...to&PhotoID=161
30$ for used intercooler (pick-n-pull), 100$ to have end tanks made, 80$ water pump. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...ctId=527&R=527

Intercooler pipe, clamps and hoses 100$ http://search.ebay.com/Intercooler_W...sortpropertyZ1 http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-8837/c-10101

Clutch and drive train 60$ http://www.capclutch.com/cabrera/rx73.html
I used their 4 puck unsprung 13b non turbo disc with a very old racing beat 12a heavy duty pressure plate I had. It did slip at times. Used a S4 N/A flywheel with both N/A and turbo motors so I could run the 1st gen transmission. 1st gen transmission held up very good. Dynode the N/A motor at 400wrhp and never had a problem with the stock 1st gen transmission or rear end. (Maybe I drive like a old man) http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...to&PhotoID=104
I strongly feel the 1st gen gsl-se drive train is very strong. I was easy launching at the line and always shifted at or before 7500 RPMs. No clutch kicking the rear end around or crazy driving for me. The SA drive train did brake a few times after upgrading to the T-66 and ported motor. Estimated rwhp was 450. (128mph ¼ mile) Transmission broke twice in 3rd gear at or above 6000 RPMs. Broke one axle launching at 6000 rpms and dumping the clutch. Normal launch was at 4000-4500 rpms, half dumping, half slipping the clutch. Best 60 foot time was 1.86 at an IRDC event. This is when the N/A motor, T3 turbo went 11.7 ET.

Exhaust manifold 100$ http://www.mazdatrix.com/getprice.asp?partnum=16212 http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/t3turinflan.html Made my own. Also used McMaster/Carr for some of the piping. Page 308 of there catalog. http://www.mcmaster.com/ctlg/DisplCt...ip&ToolsetAct= Steel Butt-weld. http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=68


Blow off valve 50$ bought a used old school HKS one. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/view...f_Valves~.html


Boost controller 135$ Apex boost solenoid controlled by a Hobbs pressure switch. http://www.kipanderson.net/rs/hobbs.htm Bought my Hobbs switch from Napa.

Waste gate 230$ http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/tial35hpwas1.html

Down pipe and exhaust 150$ made my own. http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...p-8837/c-10101 http://groups.msn.com/ChucksRX7/1983...oto&PhotoID=99

Tires and suspension
Stock GSL-SE suspension. BFG drag radials. 225/50/15 on 7jj wheels. http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...tp=Competition Best 60 foot time was 1.86. Average time was 1.95-2.05

Ignition 320$ Two Mallory HI boxes with two MSD blaster coils. 12a distributor. Not locked. Set my total advance at 4000 rpms and were ever the times ended up at idle was what I dealt with. (-8 to -4 deg leading) NGK plug wires, BUR9EQ plugs. http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...y+ignition+box Paid 119$ with out rev limiters. http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...+coil&x=22&y=8 One coil for leading and one for trailing.

Odds and ends
Relays for, fuel pumps, cooling fans, gauges and fuel computer, injectors, ignition.
Auxiliary fuse box. Electrical wire and butt connectors.
Gauges, EGT Boost AFR Shift light Fuel pressure
Cooling fans, two 10 inch fans from AutoZone.

Tools
Precipitating Saw, Hole saw, 4 ½” grinder, Drill, Digital volt/ohm Meter,

Welder 300$ for the welder. 100$ for tank and gas. 100$ for gauges. http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...terid=3180138/ Bought mine from Home Depot. Welded my exhaust manifold, intercooler piping and exhaust with this welder. Welder paid for it’s self with this one project.

Things I would have done different.
ECU- would go with a Haltech F10 fuel only. To run bigger secondary injectors, and dataloging. Not used the AIC.
Injectors- 680cc primary and 1600cc secondary.
Turbo- to keep the price down, started with a T4 p-trim turbo. Easier to upgrade later in the build. Something like an 81 A/R p-trim 60-1 turbo. Then later when more power or bigger ports were needed only the exhaust side has to be upgraded for the extra power.

Motor- Stayed with 9.4 rotors with a S5 motor. S5 motors have the extra casting around the rear dowel pin area.
Intercooler- go with an air/air front mount. 24x12x4 with 3” inlets. The water/air intercooler is best for drag racing but it was a pain when I drove the car to work. Ice would cost more then gas.
Drive train- turboII trans and ford 8.8 rear end. That way I could launch the motor like it was made to do. ACT clutch, Xtreme pp with a 4 puck unsprung disc. (Have one now and it is very easy to drive).

fitzwarryne

chuck- that must be one of the best replies on the forum. Its detailed and points the way to go, and should go into archives for future reference.

Congratulations