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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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You can remove your rats nest too, but you have to make new fuel lines, as they are integral to the solenoid rack.

You also have more blockoff plates to make.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Ok heres another question about removing things. If I want to take my AC off do I have to do any special things with the pulleys? Because there would be one less belt right? And the Airpump that will come off when I get my exhaust. So what do I do about that belt? I'm probaly going to wait and do all of this at once.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Yeah, I figure I have a lot of work ahead of me! It is pretty jerry-rigged! I bought it completely as a project car. The complete wiring harness is shoved into the spot where the airbox used to be. It should be fun, I just want to say you people have supplied me with some great info. so far, Thanks!
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. ImportGuy
Ok heres another question about removing things. If I want to take my AC off do I have to do any special things with the pulleys? Because there would be one less belt right? And the Airpump that will come off when I get my exhaust. So what do I do about that belt? I'm probaly going to wait and do all of this at once.
Buy a dual-groove alternator pulley.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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Importguy,

Maybe we can get Jim to show us what to do. I think he has done it once or twice. I'd love to get rid of as much junk as I don't need. I also need to install an oil cooler (at the filter) from my parts car.

Aaron
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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Hmm thats motivation to come to your place sat. What time was it agian? Because I need to run over to chris sanders shop, to pick up a few parts sometime sat.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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Also does anyone know what kind of dual grove pulley I need????
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
You can remove your rats nest too, but you have to make new fuel lines, as they are integral to the solenoid rack.

You also have more blockoff plates to make.
The cosmo engine I had had the fuel lines intergrated into the rats nest, but I cut them off GENTLY with a cut off wheel. so I got to use them LOL
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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I can cut rubber faster than metal. So my whole TII rack got ****-canned
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 12:19 AM
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I HAD A RAT'S NEST ONCE, DIDN'T LIKE IT
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 12:48 AM
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so other than emmission controls does the rats nest do anything else?
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Old Aug 22, 2002 | 07:18 AM
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what does the selinoid for for the ac in there do? do you need ot to run the a/c?
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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does anyone have a diagram as to what i can and cannot remove on the rats nest? or know of any?
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Why has nobody pointed out the tutorial???

http://maz_tutorials.ten15.net/

Be sure to donate some $$$ so they can continue to give us highly detailed (and well-scripted ) tutorials for the do-it-yourselfers. Plus...you get a really cool printout which i suggest you laminate and show off to all of your friends. They will get really jealous.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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..............because before this thread was brought back from the dead that tutorial didnt exist yet!
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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lol...thats no excuse!!!
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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the link on the site doesnt work for me. Is there any other way to see it?
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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no its not just for the fun of it that they put it there but it makes your car just effecient enough for none of us to care what the hell it does. but if you plug everything up correctly you get a little bit more power and less fuel efficency.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by builder7
no its not just for the fun of it that they put it there but it makes your car just effecient enough for none of us to care what the hell it does. but if you plug everything up correctly you get a little bit more power and less fuel efficency.
You forgot to mention "a much cleaner looking engine bay"
And who gives a **** about mileage these days anyways? POWER, POWER, POWER!!! Show me a rotary that gets honda gas mileage...if its gas mileage you want, buy a metro...
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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I like how we call it the "rats nest" all the time..LOL. I'm going all out for a friend on her project car -I'm rebuilding a engine and getting the setup as reliable and low maintance as possible. Taking off the entire "rats nest", pulled the shutter valve and plugged, obviously the ACV, no emissions-straight pipe, and all non-needed crap on the carb now having rebuilt it. This is mainly for me though, since I'm in-charge of fixing any things that go wrong in the long run.

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I just hate to work on a rotary with that mess of vacuum tubes, etc. With the shutter valve removed, getting the rear carb bolt is a piece of cake then. These cars are amazingly simple/easy to work with when you have it without any hint of emissions in mind. Also, I like no air pump and with headers, you can slide a oil pan under the car and you can reach the oil pan drain without raising the car, how many sports cars can you do that with?
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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I agree, these are MUCH better to work on without the various nest crap. I couldn't get to ANY of the carb bolts with the emissions crap installed!

I also advice removal of:
AC (if not necessary)
Cruise (How many actually still work?)
Hot/Cold start assists
Choke (if not necessary)
Anything that doesn't actually DO something after removing above items
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