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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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quick weber question please help

ok i been having a problem getting my repu started and you 1st gen are the weber guru's . i have to pump the weber many times to get it started and then it just dies. SO i took the carb off to see what the problem was , btw i have the racing beat top and bottom manifold. with the carb off, key on and fuel going i can see threw the filter . when i open the blades/throttle the fuel will spray out of the two barrels but will stop? only will spray for 2sec inless i pump the carb. i figure thats why i have to pump the weber many times and it will start tell it runing that fuel out? is this how the carb should be working? or should it have a constant flow shooting out of the barrels?
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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those jets, are from your accelerator pump, they are only there so the carb can keep up when you jab the throttle and transfer from your idle circut to your main. so it is only supposed to do it for a sec or so. so im assuming you probably have a clogged idle jet, you can take them out and clean them pretty simply, i think that would be the first thing to do. other things to check. do you have a fuel pressure gauge? what kind of pump are you using?
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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it sounds like it's working correctly. as allready mentioned those are your accelerator pump jets. there is no fule comming out of the idle jets or main jets unless there is constand air flow across the chokes. You most likely have clogged idle jets. They seem to clog every 5-6000 miles and a quick shot with break cleaner fixed 'em right up.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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no fuel pressure gauge its a mallory 140. the carb is brand new. why would they be clogged? are those the ones on the top of the carb under the wingnut?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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yea, they could get clogged cause sometimes small things get throught the filter, or bad gas could build up
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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why when i stand the carb straight up it pours fuel down but when its on it side it doesnt? its a side draft mani btw
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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do i need to adjust something so it will get fuel when on its side?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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well since your AP is working, i dont think your needle is sticking...have you checked the jets?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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i can look threw the jet holes on both sets i have. do they have to be tighted a certian way? btw thanks for helping me perfect circle
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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and if they where clogged. why does fuel come out of them when the carb is straight up?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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just snug them. what regulator are you using? have you checked the plugs after it wont start? and no problem, i love to help get the rotaries back on the road.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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a 4309 mallory and yes.. carb will only put fuel when standed up
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do you mean when it is vertical?? and if so where is it coming out of? and how where the plugs?
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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plugs are new. yes when vertical comes out of the two round things insid the barrels in the center when looking threw the top
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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well at this point, i dont really know what to say, other than you should contact robert from rotary shack. he has a section here is the link, you can post a message on his board, or message him, he is a weber guru.
https://www.rx7club.com/rotaryshack-164/
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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think it might be to much fuel? what screws adjust setting on the carb? there are so many
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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how do u adjust the float level? thanks
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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there are two screws at the base of the two barrels, and they control the a/f ratios. there should be some sort of external float adjust. if there isnt, you can take the top off. now i know this carb is different, but it is similar, so it should give you some idea. the red is the air fuel ratio's, the yellow is the float adjust.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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both my webers do not have those float screws. i just dont understand why it works fine vertical but not horizontial and i tryed two sets of jets
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With my webber i wasn't able to get the fuel to flow through the jets, but i found that i had a huge vaccuum leak so it wasn't able to create enough vaccuum to draw the fuel through the jets. Has the car been running with this carb before or are you trying to install it for the first time? Another thing you could do is to create your own vaccuum by using your hands to cover up the stacks when the car is starting with the intial fuel pumping.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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i have the top and bottom side draft manifold and the bottom has a nipple for a hose to be hooked up is that for vaccum to draw the fuel? i bought the motor and carb together
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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that is the nipple for the brake booster line. Without that line, you have no brakes and stopping really becomes hard.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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With my webber i wasn't able to get the fuel to flow through the jets, but i found that i had a huge vaccuum leak so it wasn't able to create enough vaccuum to draw the fuel through the jets. Has the car been running with this carb before or are you trying to install it for the first time? Another thing you could do is to create your own vaccuum by using your hands to cover up the stacks when the car is starting with the intial fuel pumping.
i did this and it started. but wont run with the throttle all the way off wont idle i guess will back fire and die but if i give is some throttle it will run fine? timing issue? thanks and thanks a ton nfld85gs
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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if it runs when you give some throttle but dies when idleing, i'm gonna guess that there still is a small vaccuum leak somewhere. Even the smallest vaccuum leak will cause the carb to run poorly. what i would do from here is to adjust the idle screw to raise the idle up to where it will keep running and then get a can of starting fluid or carb cleaner and spray it around the carb on hoses and intakes. If the rpms go up, then there is a vaccuum leak sucking the fluid in where it shouldn't. If your timing was ok before the new carb, then it should still be fine now.
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