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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Wonder how much hp those axles are gonna be rated at... Should be a nice kit when its realeased, definatly on my to do list, would be a nice way to top off my 13bt swap. Little concerned about cost though, I bet those axles are gonna be a pretty penny... I'm also interested in seeing how Billy's kit will take care of the rear e-brake setup. After reading stillettomans posts on the subject it seems theres a fair bit of modification nessesary to the caliper itself to make the FB cables work, no big deal just curious I guess.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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If the weak point of the GSL-SE rear end is the differential then what's the point of producing upgraded axles when they aren't the weak point in the first place and would probably never snap with a -SE differential?
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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I'm just speaking for myself, but I plan on getting a KAAZ diff, they make one to fit our housings, so upgraded axles will be put to good use in my case.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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well the new axles are moroso, but im not sure how strong theyll be. the driftatlanta team uses the SE rearend and they have decent numbers and they drift. they give their rearends hell. if im not mistaken they use a miata diff, kaaz(?), and moroso axles. if i remember correctly directfreak warped one of his axles when he initially did his swap and he still had the SE rearend.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Yea the driftlanta guys are using the KAAZ made for the Miata 1.8liter. sounds like its all the rear end I'll need, I doubt i'll be making more than 250hp, if that.
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Any suggestions on where to get those 1.25" spacers for the front since I ended up getting a set of Vert wheels
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I need bigger brakes, but have to keep 4x110. THat's my issue. I've been grinding my brain for weeks trying to figure out how...
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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custom drilled lug pattern maybe? anyone got suggestions on spacers for me?
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Wheeladapter.com he can make whatever you want. Fred's a really nice guy!
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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while the topics up.. what exactly do you need other than the kit to make the big brake kit work on a non 84-85? i got an 81 and think i might need more stopping power to accompany the turbo
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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I believe you first of all need the spindles from a 84-85. The bearing spacer that the kit comes with is press fitted onto the spindle.

TII 4 piston calipers, brake lines that mate into the stock hardline and into the calipers, brake pads, brake pad hardware kit, rotors, TII grease seals, and at a bare minimum the TII inner wheel bearings. It is probally a good idea to get new outter wheel bearings at the same time.

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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You will need the 84/85 front spindles, they have the bigger bearing surfaces needed to make the kit work. The rest of the suspension is basically the same up front. As far as I know thats, along with all the FC parts is all you would need.
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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I should be able to use my gsl-se SS brake lines i have right? Should be the same legth as needed
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Nope, has to be FC brake hoses. i was kinda annoyed when I found that out too, the stainless hoses on my FB aren't very old....
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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Same length yes, but where it connects into the caliper is different. As you can see the TII caliper uses 2 crush washers and a banjo bolt type design. I used the SS braided Mazdatrix TII lines (4 pot).



Note you may want to replace your brake hardlines because the stock hardline tends to rust and weaken (at least it did on my car).

Heres a picture of everything you need:

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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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Interesting, the 4 pot calipers I got have a short hard line coming out of them (with the standard flare type fitting going into the caliper) and then another flare fitting attaching to the hose.
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Old Oct 22, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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In fact the pictures on page 2 in this thread have the same line setup my calipers do. Why do your calipers use a different hose I wonder?
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Maybe the GXL and T2 4 pistons were different. or maybe it was a s4 to s5 change
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 82transam
Interesting, the 4 pot calipers I got have a short hard line coming out of them (with the standard flare type fitting going into the caliper) and then another flare fitting attaching to the hose.
I removed a set of S4 TII calipers to use as a core for braqnd new ones.. They didn't have a banjo fitting on them. It was the regular flare fitting.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Ok so it seems that so far the only one with a banjo fitting on their calipers is you Dan, the rest of us have the flare fitting calipers, very strange...
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 82transam
Nope, has to be FC brake hoses. i was kinda annoyed when I found that out too, the stainless hoses on my FB aren't very old....
Why can't i use my SS FB front brake lines? Don't understand..
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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The FB lines have the female side of a flare fitting on one end, and a simple threaded fitting with a copper crush washer on the caliper side. Where as the FC caliper requires a female flare fitting on both ends, or in Dan's case a banjo bolt fitting.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 82transam
The FB lines have the female side of a flare fitting on one end, and a simple threaded fitting with a copper crush washer on the caliper side. Where as the FC caliper requires a female flare fitting on both ends, or in Dan's case a banjo bolt fitting.
Ok I remember it when i did the -SE swap.. So you guys are buying Mazdatrix TII front SS brake lines?
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Thats what im using because they are DOT approved. I dunno why your guys lines are different, check out mazdatrix's listing for the lines, 86-92 for the same lines as mine.

http://www.mazdatrix.com/j-sslines.htm
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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very strange indeed, if you look at page 2 of this thread stillettomans pics show that the FC rear brakes have the banjo fitting. If you look at the pic on mazdatrix's site two of the lines have a banjo fitting where as the other two have the flare type fittings, so the banjo is for teh rear. At least thats what I would think, but then your pic shows your fronts having the banjo. I'm very confused. Did the S4 4 pot calipers differ from the S5? Mine are S5 and have the flare fittings....
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