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Old 09-24-08, 09:14 PM
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Question about carbs

So I have a 12A with the typical..full exhaust, ignition work and no emissions. Now its time for some air/fuel delivery. Apparently Sterling is taking a break from carbs so that leaves a few options I can get a free Dellorto DHLA 48 from my dad and buy the rebuild kit and lower 12A intake manifold. Or go with the Holley 465cfm. Which one offers the best and which one has more room to grow ie
(street port) the motor only has 60K and good compression I cant see breaking it down for a port job at this time! Thanks in advance!!
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sterling is taking a break??????
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yep said has to much work in the jewelery business? I think that is his other thing he does. I think is still offering rebuilds to the spec and IT7 guys just no Sterling Nikki's for the rest of this year
Old 09-24-08, 10:25 PM
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Go with the Dellorto, easier to tune and will support porting.
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Oh that's too bad. Good thing I read this first because when I saw the title I was just going to type BUY A STERLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too bad, your missing out.
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Yes, Sterling is taking a break. He posted something on the R C C (will this post get deleted now?) forum a few days ago about wanting to make some changes. Then today he had a bit of a... well, I won't say as he has taken his forum offline. At least I think that's what he did. Or maybe he banned me for no reason. Whatever happened his forum's background color changed about an hour or two before it became inaccessible. Plus he wrote a very interesting post in response to a post I wrote only an hour before. I didn't deserve to get banned for what I wrote but I'll let you guys be the judge if it comes down to it. I have no problem posting things in the public record if that's what it takes sometimes.

Anyone know what "You are not authorized to view this page" and "HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden Internet Explorer" mean? Was my IP banned or something? That's what's showing up on my end. I really hope Sterling is ok.

It happens at this link. http://www.sterlingmetalworks.com/thebymc
Old 09-24-08, 11:39 PM
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That happened to me when i clicked your link. I dont think he would have banned me since I havent been on that forum for awhile. I think that's what comes up when the page is down. Hmm weird. I wonder whats up.
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I get that error also, either means the site is down or the site has been shut down. I also hope hes ok and gets back to the carb business soon!
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403 means the resource is there, but the server basically just says "no." It doesn't specify a reason. And I'm getting it, too.
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Ok, that's good. I hope things work out for Sterling. He's been a great resource in the past and I hope he gets things straightened out in short order.
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If you have any questions about dellorto carbs you can take a look at my write up...
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/dellorto-48-dhla-swap-13b-12a-not-56k-friendly-773154/

make sure that the dellorto is not just a normal factory one...racing beat modified these carbs to especially run on rotaries..by drilling the emulsion tubes and doing little mods here and there. you can buy a rebuild kit from cb performance...they dont have the 48 kit right now they only have a 46 kit which comes with a 250 needle and spring and you have to do some trimming on the air horn gasket along with making you own accelerator pump gasket..getting some jets isnt as easy...cb performance has some...for my on the other hand i had to buy a few parts from Dellorto themselves in England...for one i had a 13b carb and wanted to use it on my 12a..i needed not only jets which were handled by cb performance but i needed a idle jet holder...which i bought from dellorto and had to do a bit of modifying to because they didnt come with bleed holes on the top and the carb ran really rich until i fixed the problem...
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Hi Folks,

I'm not refusing Sterling orders completely, but I am taking a break, -sort of.
I'll build all the usuals, but the turn around time has been increased to 3 months+. This basically is only going to appeal to the guys doing winter rebuilds (usually racers) and those with saint-like patience. So, since most people can't afford to wait around 14-16 weeks for a carb order, I figure it'll thin out things for me this winter.
That'll allow me to take a bit of time during this winter to restructure my schedule and become much more efficient in all my endeavors. Regarding carbs, the hope is that I'll have my **** together enough to decrease waiting time for '09 orders.
I'm a jeweler, a metalsmith, hold a full time welding and sheet metal fabrication job, and I share equal house duty and parenting of our 5 yr. old with my wife, who's just as busy as I am.
You'd think that with my wife and I being so busy all the time, we were making oodles of dough, but we're not. I'm no better off than anyone else here. Keeping that in mind, carb rebuilding & modding is the least lucrative thing I do, but the most relaxing. Unfortunately I've gotten so far behind in my orders that it has become more stressful than relaxing for me. So I need to revamp everything.

I also want to reorganize my website and include all the write-ups & photos I have promised for so long. I'm working on updating the forum, as well. It needs to be brought up to a later version for better spam security, and the layout will be more rotary carb and ignition specific (anyone know a good ignition guy? j/k... Jeff is the obvious choice, IMO). In fact, when the background changed last night, that was me setting it up for updating, but the update was unsuccessful. I think to avoid complications, I'm just going to go with another board option and start from scratch.

I wish to clarify something for anyone who was on The BYMC last night;
Last night on my forum an ongoing exchange between Jeff and I became heated. It was regarding how much information I should feel comfortable disclosing about any given modification that I do. I feel I have given very fair instruction as to what I do and why I do it, as well as providing write ups on how anyone can do some of the more important performance mods. I don't feel compelled to demonstrate every single little trick I use to actually do all of my mods, but it's not a matter of not wanting to divulge "secrets", or "proprietary information". There's no big secret about any of it.
Included in the "debate" was the idea that there are one or more "signature mods" done to the Sterling Nikki, and that perhaps I was understandably unwilling to give them up. One such mod is said to be my use of the safety spring and rod as the throttle return spring. (This is what Jeff asked about.)
Anyone who studies photos of my carbs can copy this easily enough, but I don't feel I should be painted as someone trying to keep big secrets if I don't wish to provide pictures or in depth info on how I do that linkage mod. I honestly don't think there's such a fine line between practicing (what I think is quite a small amount of) business self preservation, and being a jerk that's unwilling to help someone. Certainly other rotary related businesses practice an awful lot more self preservation by not disclosing how they do everything they do.
As far as something being a "Sterling Nikki signature mod", I sure as hell hope that such individual mods on my carbs are not what makes them "Sterlings". I strive to have unmatched craftsmanship to be my signature. Anyone else can mod a Nikki however they want. I try to make my carbs look like they were manufactured that way, not modified. (That's wheref my jeweler/silversmith training comes in.)

So anyway, that was the gist of what I wanted to say on my forum last night, but our dialog went the usual route of "Sterling gets pissed off and says the F word a lot", and I felt it was as good a time as any to pull the plug on the forum, since I'm in the middle of revamping it anyway, before too many people saw my last response to Jeff. I also didn't want there to be a history of any disrespectful exchange between us.

Jeff, there's nothing you could ever say to me to make me ban you from my forum. I have too much respect for you for that. (Besides, it's not the rx7klub, you know! ) And I look forward to arguing with you again sometime in the near future.
I'm going to follow through with the plans to make that into a Nikki forum. We'll expand that to cover Hitachi, Del'Ortto, Weber, Holley, ect, as everyone sees fit.
Jeff will remain a global mod and I'll ask him for extra help by setting up the ignition section.

Anyone needing Sterling Nikki support and Nikki troubleshooting help will still get the same personal attention while I make these personal changes.

There you have it- an update that's not even on my website yet!

Dennis
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I'm going to attempt to help boost your sales and make things more stressful for you :P

It's worth the wait.
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Good luck with the re-working of the business Dennis. Very glad to hear that you'll still be doing carbs.
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Well its good to know that Sterling can still do my carb, I don't have a problem waiting a few months. The FB wont see much driving if any at all during the winter months. Its still kinda a tough call, I have a free Dellorto asides from needing a rebuild and the lower manifold section. Or I spend the money well worth for the Sterling carb which everyone I talk to loves!! I think the cons to the Dellorto are harder to find parts and im sure it will get harder with every year that passes.
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i can say the dellorto carb is not bad..prolly the best side draft two barrel carb..dellorto solved alot of problems with the weber 45dcoe had and put it into here..still get pretty good drivability and throttle response...its really a toss up..yes the dellorto is rare...your choice though..
Old 09-26-08, 06:04 AM
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If you have 80% of it already, then you should definitely get the rest of it. You can always change your mind later, and it sure isn't like you couldn't sell the highly demanded del'Ortto quickly. I don't think anyone's ever "stuck" with one of those.
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I think tgfarrell has had his for many years...
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