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Old 01-11-04, 10:34 PM
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Project:"beat all honda rice burnin **** at school"

wuts up guys....i got my 7 like 4 days ago and iv not sat down and wrote wut my plans were..i know things will change and i left off a lot of smaller things..just hit the big spots...since wednesday (when i got it) iv taken out all carpet and insulation and door panels...whole care is bare metal...then i put the seats back in and painted the dash pieces...and im not just waitin for some money to start comin in for mods...imonly 15 so this summer i workf or my dad and will be gettin bout $270 a week...which is good for a 15 year old..so heres my plans

To get running good:
fuel pump filter
take out cat-new seals
new breaks


summer plans:
12a turbo and trans-rotaryshack
custom drive shaft
carb-intake
exaust
interior and seats (i actually needs this now but no money)
electric fan
then an alright system (dont really want the weigth...but wutever)


i took pics of the car earlier but the cam is being a bitch..gota wait till tomorrow after school to put em up..and ill be keepin this thing updated....i also plan on gettin a fuel pump filter tomorrow after school (hopin advanced auto parts has one) and see how she runs (she was having problems gettin over 55 if i was like racing style...but if i just grandma styled i could get 90...so hopin i can fix that)

but feel free to tell me other things i need to think about or wut order i need to do things...im new to cars and rotarys so everything helps

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these cars are fun but you got to remember to driver smart and careful. get it running good at first air filter is important too... try to modify the carb and maybe a new fuel pump..
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You got way more listed than 270 bucks a week for the summer will cover.
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get it running good and reliable first, you have alot of expensive plans, be sure to sit down and do alot of reading and research first.
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yea thats good advice, don't drive like an idiot, you might wanna just get the car going and slowly work up to more power, better suspension etc instead of doing everything all at once. good luck
off topic, quagmire: what kind of kit is that on your silver car? any more pics of it? looks good.
Old 01-11-04, 10:52 PM
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you need more cash. Fast cars are majorly money hungry. Figure out how much you think you need, quadruple that and you MAY have it. Maintaining a 20+ year old car in running condition is expensive enough.
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oh i know about the money...iv researched the hell outa of these cars and engine mods and ****..and summer is all being saved for a turbo 12a (from rataryshack it would be about $2000 for engine and trans and drive shaft) which i should be able to get...iv got two friends helpin my put it in and my brother is doin all wiring and workin on the computer (hes one of those computer nerds who knowns and can do everything) plus where i work..and my dads the manager...is a shop where they make golf ball molds for wilson sporting good...so i have the whole shop (including the the guys i know that work there) to make any part i need...a lil off subject...one guy just made every part to repuild his trans in his 67 camaro. but like yall said im gettin it to a nice driving stage first...i start driving this summer...so i wanna have a dependable car but still fun to drive.

and on a side note...check this...the oldest car we have-84 rx7...newest car we have-my bros 03 jetta tdi...take a guess whose in the garage



also with a 12a turbo setup...wut do i need for a good 250hp??? cuz thats all i want..once it has 250horses im not doin anymore hp mods thats good enough for me
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Well for driving it on the streets I dont know why in the hell your ripping out all the carpet and insulation. Its doesnt weigh that much. And I dont think you can justify doing that if your going to be putting a big *** system in it like you said.

The kind of people who rip out their carpet have NO stereo.

Also you mentioned computer wiring. With a CARB?!? With a carb you dont need any computer.

Also for taking out the cat, your not going to get much of a benefit if your not running a header.

As for killing the hondas, hell yeah man. In high school every dumbass who had a honda, would put the K&N on, a cheap *** muffler and an unpainted body kit, and think he was god.

But honestly man, keep the racing off the streets and get it on the track. You know as well as I do why most of the punk ***'s honda boys are on the streets is they cant cut it at the track. At the track you actually find people worth racing against.
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Re: Project:"beat all honda rice burnin **** at school"

Great Thread Title.


Please make sure you learn to drive a car 1st.
According to statistics, one doesn't really learn
to drive a car (safely) for at least the 1st 5 to 7 years
of actively driving.

You can get more than enough HP to smoke Honda's with Bolt ons.

Turbo's are much further down the road.

Learn to walk before you can Boost (or creep )
Old 01-12-04, 01:56 AM
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You do realize that a Mazda could technically be called a "rice-burner" too, don't you?
Enough of the car clique generalizations, already.
All cars are cool in their own right, and the freedom that they give us is as enjoyed by "ricers" as the rest of us, calling them "****" is uncalled for.
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Adding a turbo to a 20year old engine is the quickest way to an expensive rebuild known to man.
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Hmmm, im going to have to agree with wankleguy on this. Calling them **** is just a little immature, that and all the typos, and short spellings annoy me.

*shrug* Ripping out the carpet and padding is not the best idea in the world. You are using this car for daily driving, not track use, people will think of you as an idiot. I will tell you right now that you are going to need to do a bit of restoration work before you get your projects going.

As far as your bro being a computer nerd, and working on the computer... you are slightly misguided.... not to mention your car dosen't have one.

And follow directfreaks adivice, he is wise in the ways of driving.
Old 01-12-04, 09:56 AM
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OFF TOPIC....

How did the Honda's (mainly civics I guess) In the USA start being called Ricers.....??

Coz, here in Oz, rotary haters always call/scream out..RICE BURNER! or RICE COOKER! to most of us rx drivers....

Just an interesting observation.

Back to topic:

Dude....most of the advice here is good. First thing is first, do the works on servicing. Filters, Sparks, Coils, Battery, Pump....new tyres... Then start thinking about upgrading Clutch(heavy duty)/ lightening flywheel is a good little investment and not that expensive....start slow, and drive safe and smart for a while.....then start building it up when you can afford to run it/insure it.
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Yeah, you should put the interior back in, Then once its running start with smaller bolt ons, Dont jump right in to a turbo or new seals or any major project until your sure the car is sound. And you should skip the "system" not exactly the right car to put it in.
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Your origional prob with the car "cant go faster than 55mph" will obviously need to be addressed first and foremost. You need to rebuild the carb so you can start at baseline. $270 a week isnt enough to do the mods and gas and chase ***, get it running the way it should and you wont have to put that much into it to beat the honda *****! Watch out for the turbo'd ones, theyll make you humble really quick! Youll get more *** with a good looking car than a fast one too.
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It's always about the ***..... (non-gay-way)
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You have to remember that this will take time. It just don't happen over night. My car has been sitting on jack stands for almost 4 months now. I planed on only about 2 months of work, but before the car is drivable, I'm thinking another 2 months. Thats half a year. I have big plans too, but money is an issue. I had $1000 after I bought the car. I have since used all that up plus at least another $500.

For my plans, I will be doing a monster streetport 4 or 6 port 13B engine with a weber 51 IDA or holley 600. I have a custom 3" exhaust already done (car needed it to pass safety so I did it now), with a magnaflow muffler and a glasspack cherry bomb for a presilencer. In the future, I will get a racing beat presilencer with a streetable header. Other mods include a racing beat suspension kit and some sort of body kit. This will all happen over a 4 year period.

Just remember, your car like everyone else said is a Rice Burner too. Kids at my school like my car because it has a unique design and a unique engine, but they all still call it a Rice Burner. Don't be surprised if you run into problems with money. To do it right and reliable, that engine and drivetrain should cost more like $3000-$4000.

BTW, for anyone that thinks he is saying he wants to put a turbo on the existing 12a, look at rotary shack. They sell J-spec 12a turbo engine that were built for a turbo. But a rebuild is still in order if you get this.
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Re: Re: Project:"beat all honda rice burnin **** at school"

Originally posted by Directfreak

Please make sure you learn to drive a car 1st.
According to statistics, one doesn't really learn
to drive a car (safely) for at least the 1st 5 to 7 years
of actively driving.

****! nobody told me that! that means I don't know how to drive! Now I'll probably crash today!
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I'll agree with everone else about the time and money issues but a small system is good, you have to get rid of the annoying whistling of the 18 year-old window seals somehow Any way, I'd put that carpet back in! Good carpet isn't the cheapest thing to throw out. A good magazine for you to get is Victoria British they sell all the stock parts you need to get it running sound again. Start with getting it back to stock and drive for a while. Your first mods should be exhaust and intake, like the piston engines the better the car can breath the better it will run. I started with intake and now i'm in a bind to buy a new exhaust system in a hurry and i don't exactly have the money.

oh and your problem with the "not getting over 55" sounds like a clogged fuel filter so I'd start with that if not that I'd then try the fuel pump and see how much fuel psi your getting.
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I agree with everyone, senselessly ripping things from your car is just stupid. Like was already said, its a street car, not a track car. As was also said earlier, calling the honda drivers "stupid ricer ****" is uncalled for and horribly immature. And yes, good grammer and spelling out entire words is also nice. Time to grow up a little it seems.
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Originally posted by 82transam
And yes, good grammer and spelling out entire words is also nice. Time to grow up a little it seems.
Thats why he is here! He is only 15. We can help in his right of passage.
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take it easy on the kid, hes only 15

rx7anator, when i got my car i thought i would be able to afford to do all kinds of sweet **** like turbo and all that hoopla. Turns out that my $250 a week was barely enough to keep the thing on the road!

These guys are right, you are gonna have to spend a lot of time and money restoring the car before you can start moding it.

Take time to do it right, these cars are great, entierly worth the time/ money you are gonna have to invest.
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Although I am less modded than everyone else here, I'm going to agree with what was previously said.

Tune-up & changing the basics (air & fuel filters, fluids, etc.) first. Get it running good & sound. Put that interior back in - not only for looks, but for insulation & noise reduction.

The other mods will definately take time & money. Look for used but good exhaust - there's always stuff listed on the 1st gen parts for sale section.

Also, if you haven't already, read the "power improvements (cheap)" thread, it might give you some ideas of stuff you can do without spending a grip of your earnings.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=250544

And please, when you do finally get on the road, don't drive like a dumbass - we hate seeing the wreck/dead threads!
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what's up with rx-7 owners and the name "Brad"? there are like 5 of us on this board ;p


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