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Old 01-06-12, 10:59 AM
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Please explain to me how to take this Air pump out(pic)

So I stripped the bolt, so I decided to cut that end of the bolt thinking that it would slide out..... Wrong... It swivels up and down it just dosent move back or front. Please help.

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you're going to have to either weld something to that and un bolt it or cut the whole air pump off now. i had a hell of a time with mine as it was stripped when i got it.
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How did you cut it? Looks a little buggered on the end. This is the pivot bolt which is 4-6 long. The clamp bolt on the bottom is removed right? I'd have to look at a car but I'm thinking that if you dressed down the end of the bolt stub and lubed it up with some WD-40, then disconnect both hoses and the belt, you could work it off. Or, as a plan B, can you get a pair of vice grips on the stub end? Possibily needle nose vice grips. They also make stud removers. They fit on a ratchet and are basically like a socket that goes over stripped / broken studs and pinches down and grips the stud's OD when you apply turning force.
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i cant remember exactly what it looks like in there, but for some reason i remember not being able to cut the bolt like he did and and slide it off... i think the bolt goes through a bracket and screws into the actual air pump. You could cut in between there and it should come off, though. what i did was weld the air pump slider/belt adjuster rod thing to the shaft of the cut bolt and use that to spin it off.
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yeah it would probably hep ur cause alot w/o the belt and the hoses cuz that makes it harder to move. From the looks of it and what i remember that bolt is a huge shoulder bolt (large unthreaded potion) if u gte all that junk off of it and get something behind it it should slide off that bolt. If that doesent work and you need to get it out buy some badass vice grips put a few grooves in the bolt so they get a better bite and clamp em as hard as they possibly can clamp and see if it works.
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Guys I took everything out. It was just me and the air pump and it beat me. There's just some weird thing holding there. I'm afraid it I cut it out it's still gonna be there...
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Just a shot in the dark. I don't know this air pump, but any chance or removing the whole mounting bracket?
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That bolt goes through the pump, then through the water pump housing then screws into threads in the back part of the air pump. The part it screws into is cast metal and that ear brakes off pretty easy with force. Take the belt and pully of the air pump, spray PB Blater/WD40 where it threads the air pump and also the where it does through the water pump housing and let is soak. Then use some vise grips and hope the bolt frees up. If that does not work you might be able to get a saw blade between the water pump housing and air pump on the back side.

You might also be able to unscrew the back part of the pump. It's held on with three or four bolts but it a long shot because there isn't much room. The back portion contains a shaft that does through the air pump blades so be prepaired to put the pump back together or buy a new one if you choose this route.



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getting to the back is impossible because of the room. right now there are 3 options.

1. leave it alone- thats what i am forced to do right now.
2. cut that bolt with a dremel. im kinda scared to do that becuase i still dont think it gonna come out.
3. weld a nut on it and get it off like that. i dont have anything to weld so i gotta look around.

option 1 of course is the best but im gonna loook at option 3 until i find a welding shop.
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Thats the trickest air pump I'v saw. What a jewel!

the bolt in question does thread into the back side of the housing. Pictured is a set of stud pullers that may work if the end of the bolt is long enough and not too far gone.
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You could also take the water pump housing off and tackle it that way. Plenty of room then.
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the easiest thing is to just weld a new head on the bolt.
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ok guys here what i noticed. when the bolt was slowly coming out the other end was not moving at all. so where the nut part was it was spinning off but when i checked the other side it was in the same spot. So i think that part broke inside already. if that is the case then what?
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If the bolt actually snapped along its length somewhere, the end protruding out the front would be loose and you could most likely pull that part out. Did you ever lube it up before wrenching on it more? If KC REPU is right and this hangs off the water pump housing, then like he suggested, taking off the water pump should also remove the air pump. You can then work on it on the bench.
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i need to somehow get behind it and take those i think 3 or 4 bolts off. but i need to remove the carb i think for that and i do not know how to do that....
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Originally Posted by Touring
i need to somehow get behind it and take those i think 3 or 4 bolts off. but i need to remove the carb i think for that and i do not know how to do that....
It will be much easier to take the water pump housing off. The air pump will come off with the water pumo housing. It's cheaper to replace the engine to water pump housing gasket then it is to replace the intake manifold gasket.
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I just took mine off a couple days ago, so I have a good visual picture, and I have an easier solution than anything mentioned above.

The reason it doesn't pull off is because there is a lower bracket down at the bottom that is in the way (in front of the pump). This is not problem though, you should be able to jimmy the pump around and clear the bracket.

Push the alternator towards the engine to slacken the belt, and remove the belt first. Then, rotate/pull the alternator as far away from the engine as possible (farther than the belt would have allowed you to). If you rotate and pull it up and out far enough, it will clear the lower bracket. Then, you will be able to pull it out and off of the broken bolt. You could also just remove the lower bracket, but it is down low and hard to see/access with the pump installed.

This will only work if you have all of the other bolts completely removed, not just loosened.
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Originally Posted by possuman
I just took mine off a couple days ago, so I have a good visual picture, and I have an easier solution than anything mentioned above.

The reason it doesn't pull off is because there is a lower bracket down at the bottom that is in the way (in front of the pump). This is not problem though, you should be able to jimmy the pump around and clear the bracket.

Push the alternator towards the engine to slacken the belt, and remove the belt first. Then, rotate/pull the alternator as far away from the engine as possible (farther than the belt would have allowed you to). If you rotate and pull it up and out far enough, it will clear the lower bracket. Then, you will be able to pull it out and off of the broken bolt. You could also just remove the lower bracket, but it is down low and hard to see/access with the pump installed.

This will only work if you have all of the other bolts completely removed, not just loosened.
His issue is the the bolt you see with the head broken off goes through the water pump and screws into a threaded part of the airpump.
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Originally Posted by kansascityrepu
his issue is the the bolt you see with the head broken off goes through the water pump and screws into a threaded part of the airpump.
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Oh, I see. I didn't notice that part of the pump was threaded before I just went and looked at the one I took off. That's a ridiculous and unnecessary design. I would definitely recommend the hack saw option.

Take a hack saw blade at slide it in between the threaded part of the pump and the bracket to cut off the bolt. You may have to get one of those handy short hack saws and use just the blade. It won't take too long to cut through an old bolt as long as the blade is new.
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