mwpayne

Some of you may remember that my engine was destroyed by pineapple sleeves working loose.
I ran across more threads/info that my save others from the same fate. PLEASE take the time to read:

http://www.rotaryaviation.com/engine_failure.htm

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=18439

And, the original thread for those that don't know what I'm referring to:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=193335

V8kilr

pretty shitty, thats why I never bought them.

I still laugh my *** off when I see bruce of atkins rotary put that liquid fake metal **** in the 6 ports.

maybe its insurance to make your that you will be comming back for another rebuild sooner or later

Rotortuner

I used the sleeves in a friends car, and i just dont see how they destroyed your engine. They are semi circular the way they fit and i just dont see how they made it into your engine. We are still using them and its been like almost a year.

CJG

inittab

The sleave doesn't get eaten by the engine it's the Pineapple "insert" that get's munched.

Atkins Dan

V8kilr QUOTE:
pretty shitty, thats why I never bought them.

I still laugh my *** off when I see bruce of atkins rotary put that liquid fake metal **** in the 6 ports.

maybe its insurance to make your that you will be comming back for another rebuild sooner or later

~I am not aware of any body under payroll of/ or at Atkins by the name of Bruce. Bruce Turrentine makes a video that we sell as an AID ONLY AND WE HAVE A DISCLAMER NOTE ON THE BOX . The disclamer says "PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS VIDEO WAS INTENDED AS AN AID TO REBUILD YOUR ROTARY ENGINE . YOU SHOULD BE CONSULTING YOUR MAZDA FACTORY MANUAL FOR OTHER SPECIFICATIONS AS NEEDED . ATKINS ROTARY IS SELLING THIS TO YOU AS AN AID AND MAY OR MAY NOT ADVISE SOME OF THE PROCDEURES SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO ." ATKINS ROTARY does and has NEVER put liquid metal or devcon in the intake ports !!!!

V8kilr

well sorry for the confusion, and damn that was a quick defense of your name, do you have some sort of bot the notifies you when someone makes a comment about the company?

btw why doesnt it say on the vid that bruce is not employed by atkins?

No hard feelings, I buy my apex seals and rebuild kits from you.

Rotortuner

I just dont see how the insert could get pulled in. ?? Its shaped as a barrell like the tube. Mabe some were different, but the ones we got from pineaple, it is a physical impossibility for the inserts to get sucked in. The diameter of the insert was greater than that of the opeding in the sleeve.

CJG

YellowT2

iTrader: (1)

Somebody didn't read the threads posted above.

The sleeves themselves do not come out. They get loose, beating back and forth against the actuator rods. This eventually causes the rods come out, and get sucked into the engine.

Rotortuner

I read that part, but i thought that the original person that posted with the blown engine, stated that the wole insert somehow got sucked in. I have no argument about the possibility of te rods getting sucked in.

CJG

mwpayne

My bad, I, at the time of the event, was unclear and indeed thought that the sleeves got in the engine.
Not true, the sleeves came loose and banged on the actuator rods, causing THEM to get into the engine.
Sorry for the confusion!

Atkins Dan

well sorry for the confusion, and damn that was a quick defense of your name, do you have some sort of bot the notifies you when someone makes a comment about the company?

btw why doesnt it say on the vid that bruce is not employed by atkins?

No hard feelings, I buy my apex seals and rebuild kits from you.

No big deal on the confusion , and I have nothing on the net sending me info on these things I look on here at work because I have no pc @ home .
That is not the first time someone has asked that , and we tell everybody we just sell his video.
And there are no hard feelings here, and when I have nothing to do between tec calls and taking orders I look for tech ?s on the forum .

Atkins Dan

Dan

rotarygod

iTrader: (1)

I have used the "liquid fake metal ****" in 3 of my engines (different cars!) over the past 8 years and have never had a problem with them. The key is in preparation which many poor fools don't do enough of. Do not ever under any circumstance use JB Weld in an engine. Devcon is some damn fine **** when used properly.

13B4port

so whats the solution to the sleeves. how do you keeo the pin from falling out and hurting the engine?

Pedestrian X

Only solution I can come up with is to not use them.

Rotortuner

Ours were enough of an intereference fit that they pressed in and were held securely. No longer need the pins.

CJG

CheddaKing

Two words... THANK YOU!

nod1stgen

Thats It! Im pullin My sleeves this weekend.

purple82

Tap a countersunk hole into them from the base of the sleeve and screw them to the sleeve.

Rotortuner

If you pull them out and pull the pins, then just lock tite the inserts and the sleeves in. That should hold the insert and then remove the pins. Leave the ports open all the time.

CJG

Beorex

thanks for the update. i got a set of these when i bought the car. was thinking about installing them, but i'll probably just toss em.

purple82

Locktite liquifies at high temps.

smnc

The first link didn't mention the insert coming loose. It said the WHOLE sleeve backed out of the side housing.

Breadfan

pineapple racing blows *** rob golden is just a lame *** who tries to reinvent the wheel when it comes engines he builds if you think Im makeing it up call him (if pineapple would pick up the phone) and ask about the LOOP LINE oil Mod he sells. I didnt know the rotory engine had oil problems and needed a LOOP LINE. mazdas been doing it for 40 years robbie golden 20 years. Dont you think mazda would have a loop line if there was a oil pressure problem with the engines or is robbie trying to make a fast buck on bullshit mod like 6 port sleeves and loop lines that he has never actually test or even fit on a rotory.

Rotortuner

He puts the loop lines on an lot of the engines he builds.

CJG