Pics of my new Sterling Carb & ported Manifold
Hey Stu,
In these pics of your carb,and manifold I notice you dont have the phonelic carb spacer mounted under the carb.Have you tried mounting this yet?Did you use the 80 spacer or one from a 81+ car?I ask because I am trying to use my 83 Yaw Power modified carb on my 79 intake,and the 79 carb spacer is not allowing full range of motion from the throttle linkage.I am really wondering what I need to do to make this work,short of trimming the spacer.I don't want to ruin my spacer by cutting it though.I am truly worried I have taken this project to a place I don't want it to go.I am about ready to just go back with all stock stuff in place of the Yaw carb,plans for electric fan,and 89 water pump set up.As much as I liked my Yaw carb I don't want to screw up this car,and I have always loved my electric fan on my 83,but I don't know of a good way to mount it on this car with the under radiator oil cooler.I am so confused.Help me out here.
Chris
79 GS
83 LE parts car
74 RE/PU
92 Cummins diesel
In these pics of your carb,and manifold I notice you dont have the phonelic carb spacer mounted under the carb.Have you tried mounting this yet?Did you use the 80 spacer or one from a 81+ car?I ask because I am trying to use my 83 Yaw Power modified carb on my 79 intake,and the 79 carb spacer is not allowing full range of motion from the throttle linkage.I am really wondering what I need to do to make this work,short of trimming the spacer.I don't want to ruin my spacer by cutting it though.I am truly worried I have taken this project to a place I don't want it to go.I am about ready to just go back with all stock stuff in place of the Yaw carb,plans for electric fan,and 89 water pump set up.As much as I liked my Yaw carb I don't want to screw up this car,and I have always loved my electric fan on my 83,but I don't know of a good way to mount it on this car with the under radiator oil cooler.I am so confused.Help me out here.
Chris
79 GS
83 LE parts car
74 RE/PU
92 Cummins diesel
Hey Chris-
I don't know how much help I can be at this point
The picts I posted are "poser" pics: the carby is just sitting on the manifold to photograph it. Its not in the car yet, just decorating my office desk. Install will be in a couple of months... I plan to use the 80 spacer if Carl sez that's OK. There has been no mention anywhere i have read about the spacer interferring with _Sterlings_ but I don't know about Yaws. Maybe post the question directly on the Forum?
Sorry I can't be more help Chris- can anyone help here??
Stu Aull
80 GS
Alaska
I don't know how much help I can be at this point
The picts I posted are "poser" pics: the carby is just sitting on the manifold to photograph it. Its not in the car yet, just decorating my office desk. Install will be in a couple of months... I plan to use the 80 spacer if Carl sez that's OK. There has been no mention anywhere i have read about the spacer interferring with _Sterlings_ but I don't know about Yaws. Maybe post the question directly on the Forum?Sorry I can't be more help Chris- can anyone help here??
Stu Aull
80 GS
Alaska
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From: st. george UT
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Originally Posted by vipernicus42
Amazingly enough, living in Ottawa and having no choke wasn't a big deal. Carl was the one who originally convinced me to ditch it! Even around 0 degrees (Celcius.. freezing point of water) my fast idle linkage still revs the car to 2k when I pull the choke **** out. No problems warming it up, and I don't notice a starting difference at all. I don't drive it in winter, and I'd assume that at -40 degrees it might act up without a proper choke, but this is more than enough. The fast idle rod does it's job.
As for the rest of the "missing" stuff, I don't miss it at all. No drivability difference whatsoever. My idle is anywhere between 900 and 1,100rpm depending on engine and ambient temperature, but very solid. Mechanical Secondaries are a joy to drive and I find that I prefer the increased response of coming off the throttle without a dashpot. Since I don't change altitudes often, the altitude compensator is a useless thing that I don't notice being gone.
The biggest advantage of the Rx7Carl carb and a removed rat's nest is the simplicity of troubleshooting. I have one vacuum tube for my vacuum advance (on the distributor), two larger hoses for my PCV system and that's it. The carb itself comes off the car with no arguement in less than 10 minutes. The Idle Speed screw is actually reachable with the car running, allowing for idle tweaking on a whim.
I couldn't be happier. You just have to remember to pump your gas twice when it's cold before starting, and crack the throttle slightly when it's warm while starting. Not exactly rocket science for the simplicity of it. (no "hot start assist" and the bigger Accelerator Pump throw gives the gas you need to give it that "jump" to start without a choke plate).
Jon
As for the rest of the "missing" stuff, I don't miss it at all. No drivability difference whatsoever. My idle is anywhere between 900 and 1,100rpm depending on engine and ambient temperature, but very solid. Mechanical Secondaries are a joy to drive and I find that I prefer the increased response of coming off the throttle without a dashpot. Since I don't change altitudes often, the altitude compensator is a useless thing that I don't notice being gone.
The biggest advantage of the Rx7Carl carb and a removed rat's nest is the simplicity of troubleshooting. I have one vacuum tube for my vacuum advance (on the distributor), two larger hoses for my PCV system and that's it. The carb itself comes off the car with no arguement in less than 10 minutes. The Idle Speed screw is actually reachable with the car running, allowing for idle tweaking on a whim.
I couldn't be happier. You just have to remember to pump your gas twice when it's cold before starting, and crack the throttle slightly when it's warm while starting. Not exactly rocket science for the simplicity of it. (no "hot start assist" and the bigger Accelerator Pump throw gives the gas you need to give it that "jump" to start without a choke plate).
Jon
all in all how much did you pay for all the work you had done because i was looking on thier web site and it looks like you did a couple of diffrent things but i wasnt sure could you clarify what options you got i no you sorda said earlir but i mean like boost prepared, flux capaciter ect... if so much thanks!
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Originally Posted by gmanuser
all in all how much did you pay for all the work you had done because i was looking on thier web site and it looks like you did a couple of diffrent things but i wasnt sure could you clarify what options you got i no you sorda said earlir but i mean like boost prepared, flux capaciter ect... if so much thanks!
hahaha, flux capacitor. sounds like carl's got some secret projects going on over there. Though I must say a first gen could make for a nice time traveller.
I was wondering about chrome plating an intake manifold. I have a spare RB Holley intake I have started smoothing the outer rough casting to polish. I was told from a drag racing friend to never chrome plate an intake. He says it creates heat soak that that will rob power from the engine. He said the chrome plating will retain the heat, where the bare aluminum will disapate it better. I know on these engines that you really need a heat shield between the exhaust and intake regardless. Does anyone have any factual info about the chrome plating? I would like to know for sure, because I have a friend that owns a chrome plating shop in Charlotte NC. Iwould like too plate my intake before I use it.
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I can't talk about price, 'cause of forum rules etc... but the first time I had it rebuilt by carl I got the carburetor completely re-worked. Told him I didn't need emissions passing ability and let him and Sterling go crazy on it. It's their "Sterling Carb" as opposed to the little known "stock rebuild" option that they used to offer (don't know if they still do). I don't know many more details about what they do, other than the fact that it kicks ***.
This winter I've sent it back down because I'm getting it powdercoated, along with a ported and powdercoated manifold. I was so impressed with the carb alone that I wanted more
If you know what options you want/need specifically you can discuss it with them. I didn't get mine boost prepped (I don't even know if they do that yet, I know they were exparimenting with it) because I'm not boosted. I just sorta trusted them to do what they do best. But if you have specific concerns, they're always open.
Jon
This winter I've sent it back down because I'm getting it powdercoated, along with a ported and powdercoated manifold. I was so impressed with the carb alone that I wanted more
If you know what options you want/need specifically you can discuss it with them. I didn't get mine boost prepped (I don't even know if they do that yet, I know they were exparimenting with it) because I'm not boosted. I just sorta trusted them to do what they do best. But if you have specific concerns, they're always open.
Jon
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Originally Posted by vipernicus42
I can't talk about price, 'cause of forum rules etc... but the first time I had it rebuilt by carl I got the carburetor completely re-worked. Told him I didn't need emissions passing ability and let him and Sterling go crazy on it. It's their "Sterling Carb" as opposed to the little known "stock rebuild" option that they used to offer (don't know if they still do). I don't know many more details about what they do, other than the fact that it kicks ***.
This winter I've sent it back down because I'm getting it powdercoated, along with a ported and powdercoated manifold. I was so impressed with the carb alone that I wanted more
If you know what options you want/need specifically you can discuss it with them. I didn't get mine boost prepped (I don't even know if they do that yet, I know they were exparimenting with it) because I'm not boosted. I just sorta trusted them to do what they do best. But if you have specific concerns, they're always open.
Jon
This winter I've sent it back down because I'm getting it powdercoated, along with a ported and powdercoated manifold. I was so impressed with the carb alone that I wanted more
If you know what options you want/need specifically you can discuss it with them. I didn't get mine boost prepped (I don't even know if they do that yet, I know they were exparimenting with it) because I'm not boosted. I just sorta trusted them to do what they do best. But if you have specific concerns, they're always open.
Jon
They do boost prep, I'm getting my carb the Sterling treatment and boost prepping right now. Can't wait to get it back
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Originally Posted by bad 83
I was wondering about chrome plating an intake manifold. I have a spare RB Holley intake I have started smoothing the outer rough casting to polish. I was told from a drag racing friend to never chrome plate an intake. He says it creates heat soak that that will rob power from the engine. He said the chrome plating will retain the heat, where the bare aluminum will disapate it better. I know on these engines that you really need a heat shield between the exhaust and intake regardless. Does anyone have any factual info about the chrome plating? I would like to know for sure, because I have a friend that owns a chrome plating shop in Charlotte NC. Iwould like too plate my intake before I use it.
Double edge sword. Yes the chrome would block some heat from escaping, but it would also keep the manifold from absorbing heat from the hotter headers sitting right below it as chrome reflects heat very well. Over all will it make a big difference? I dunno.
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I think in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't worry about it. The manifold is already heated to engine temp by the coolant passages that flow through it. If you blocked off the coolant passages on the block with those cold plugs or whatever they're called, you'd save more than enough heat to make up for the chroming.
I think you'd only really notice the difference on an extremely accurate dyno. I know my butt probably wouldn't be able to tell you otherwise.
Jon
I think you'd only really notice the difference on an extremely accurate dyno. I know my butt probably wouldn't be able to tell you otherwise.
Jon
Originally Posted by inuissus_cendi
They do boost prep, I'm getting my carb the Sterling treatment and boost prepping right now. Can't wait to get it back
I spoke with sterling not even 2-3 weeks ago about my project and he refused to touch it because i'd be boosted.
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Originally Posted by tasty danish
WTF?!
I spoke with sterling not even 2-3 weeks ago about my project and he refused to touch it because i'd be boosted.
I spoke with sterling not even 2-3 weeks ago about my project and he refused to touch it because i'd be boosted.
Totally my fault. My apologies. I will boost prep the carb if you want, but your on your own as far as tuning it since I dont have any experience with a blown Nikki. I think Sterling misunderstood me on this point. So dont blame him, blame me. The extra charge is to seal up all the ports, remove the fuel return etc, etc, etc.
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hey Carl.
Good to see you still on here.
(You might not remember me,Im down here in Tampa)
If I was not into running Holleys or Delortos,Id be knocking on yoru door with a Nikki carb in hand.
I have a few 81-85 intakes/carbs and a SA intake and carb set up ill be selling here or ebay soon.
Carl,Can you find me Delorto parts?
Good to see you still on here.
(You might not remember me,Im down here in Tampa)
If I was not into running Holleys or Delortos,Id be knocking on yoru door with a Nikki carb in hand.
I have a few 81-85 intakes/carbs and a SA intake and carb set up ill be selling here or ebay soon.
Carl,Can you find me Delorto parts?
Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Totally my fault. My apologies. I will boost prep the carb if you want, but your on your own as far as tuning it since I dont have any experience with a blown Nikki. I think Sterling misunderstood me on this point. So dont blame him, blame me. The extra charge is to seal up all the ports, remove the fuel return etc, etc, etc.
i gave up on the nikki and bought a weber set up!
it's all good though.
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Rotary 7, of course I remember you. Hows the cars? I dont have any line on D'ell stuff sorry.
Well danish, theres probably more help with the weber on boost anyway. Youd be on your own with a boost prepped Nikki.
Well danish, theres probably more help with the weber on boost anyway. Youd be on your own with a boost prepped Nikki.
Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Rotary 7, of course I remember you. Hows the cars? I dont have any line on D'ell stuff sorry.
Well danish, theres probably more help with the weber on boost anyway. Youd be on your own with a boost prepped Nikki.
Well danish, theres probably more help with the weber on boost anyway. Youd be on your own with a boost prepped Nikki.
i'm pretty sure i'll be on my own anyhow.
i got some CRAZY ideas up in my head.
rest assured you'll all be in on it.
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