inittab

These look perfect! Does anyone have similar pedals? And where can I find these? TIA

syklone

I bought a pair of Sparco's that I love. They are similar in design to those, but not quite as wide. I just angled the gas peddle slightly, and moved the brake peddle closer to the gas when I mounted them. They are nice and close, but not to close that I hit the gass when I slam on the brake!

Directfreak

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My guess is - RAZO. Says it right on them

Believe it ot not, besides the Ricer Gear,
JCWhitneySportCompact.com has some nice looking pedals. Cheap too.

gamble302

hey ive got those ones
they work great, dunno where they were bought but my bro had em on his lude and took em off because the screw on the brake pedal one hit the carpet. works great for me though

Redlance

sorry for the thread hijack but what is heal to toe any way? What is the advantage? I have aftermarket pedals in my car and they are very close together but I don't drive any different than any other car.... except faster and slightly more agressevely.

whippy

heel toe is for changing down in gears, when u are on the brakes, change gears and u put ur toes on the brake and the heel off ur foot onto the accelerator, give it a bit of gas before u let the clutch out so the revs match when u do,

Keaponlaffen

Yeah, no kidding.... look at those sweet INDIGLOW ones....



Jeff

Redlance

so basicly, anti engine breaking? only slowing down the amount that you want to with the breaks and then having the revs up to take off again when your done turning or what ever caused you to want to slow down?

PaulFitzwarryne

Redlance- not quite right

Its more useful when the car is halted to have the clutch out with the left foot, the right foot on the brake while at the same hitting the throttle to keep the revs up. You can get a quicker launch and stop the engine stalling. Its very useful at the lights when the engine is cold. Many ricers use it to create noise and attention to a loud exhaust!

You can use it coming into a corner braking and changing gear when there is a need to have the engine speed lined up with the drive shaft speed. It was a skill needed 50 years ago on a crash box but not needed now unless the tranny/clutch is really stuffed

Rotor13B

Dang, I was gonna say footlocker but there's a pic...lol

inittab

LOL! I love the pedals for automatic transmissions!!! Now THAT is ricer gear! They even have the heal-tow grippers on 'em. Oh... and the glowing ones are priceless as well.

Now I feel dirty for bring up this thread.

85RX7GS

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Barwick

razos are incredibly expensive for some stupid reason (they sell in the riceboy catalogs).

If you want pads for pedal feel, go to Pep Boys and buy the $19.99 set of pedal pads, the ones with the swiveling latches on the back. I had those on my '96 GS-R, '92 Civic, and '80 RX-7 race car. Haven't gotten 'em for my TurboII yet, but I should.

Redwood

You're right that it isn't needed to save the tranny anymore, but it is still a needed skill in hard driving.

If you're on the limit and entering a corner at the maximum speed possible and downshift WITHOUT toe-heeling, your rear tires will get a sudden change in input and cause them to check up (<---not a tech term). This, in turn, leaves you in the run-off confused and watching yourself get passed.

It's all about smoothness and toe-heel is quite necessary in a smooth, fast downshift.

Rotary-MG

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There was that video for download just last week here on this board. Not only did it show someone porting their rotary, but towards the end of the show there is some excellent footage showing the heal toe. There was a window showing the driver's working of the pedals and the main view out the window. I was like a dance and the timing is very important. Looked like he was using heal toe throughout the turns, keeping the engine RPMs up as he braked, and when he needed to get back into gear the engine was already spun up and ready for action!

I think what Paul F. was talking about it called double cluthing. My '65 MG didn't come with 1st gear syncros, so I had to double cluth to get it into 1st gear. What a b*tch that was. Now the MG has a '79 RX7 tranny!

Defprun

I was thinking of getting some stainless steel pedals made like the ones in race cars and dragsters. I think they look pretty cool. You could even leave some of the bur on the inner edge of the holes for extra grippiness.

PaulFitzwarryne

RotaryMG is right that without syncro you had to double declutch, on clutch into neutral, get the revs right then clutch on and slide into the new gear without hopefully too much noise. Fortunately with usually only three gears you could minimize the number of times you tried it.

inittab

Rotary-MG.... can ya dig up the URL for that video? I'd like ta see it.

Redwood

Yeah, double-clutching is a different story altogether. That is definitely not needed these days. But try asking any "ricer" about it and they'll likely tell you they do it or wish they could because it is mentioned in Fast and Furious (for some odd reason).

inittab

Ya gotta be kiddin? heel-toe and double-clutching is EXACTLY the same except with heal-toe you have the added difficulty of applying the brakes at the same time you blip the gas. Proper heal-toe shifting keeps the engine, transmission, and wheel speed matched up so there is no jolt through the driveline while downshifting. Double-ctuching is just as useful and is a simplified version of heal-toe without the brakes. How else are ya gonna match transmission and engine speed? Just blip the gas with the clutch in? I don't think so. Now that would be a "ricer" maneuver.

Also, double-clutching isn't just for bad or non-existent synchros! It is absolutely necessary if you wanna make the fastest turn possible. And believe me, proper heal-toe and double-clutching is a requirement if you wanna get the most out of the 1st Gen's tail happy handling. Last thing ya wanna do is give the **** end of a 1st Gen a jolt while taking a high speed turn.

Aico

The idea of dubble-clutching is to match the revs of the transmission and the wheels. Heel&Toe is matching the revs of the transmission and the engine. These are 2 totally different things.

Heel&Toe is for smooth driving, but your synchro's are used because you didn't match the revs of the transmission and the wheels.

79+80_rx-7

NOTA V6... his pics...


There... NO IDEA where to get them... maybe you should import some front clips and see if you get lucky


LATERZ, Andrew

Manntis

Double clutching is used in F&F for the same reason anti matter polarity inverters are used in Star Truck. It sounds cool and if you don't know what the technobabble really means you're dazzled.

There's a Hollywood movie from the 50's (who's name eludes me) in which a guy casts a magic spell containing the words "Saskatoon Saskatchewan" - which just happens to be where I live. Conflicting stories on this; one is the screenwriter was from the Canadian Prairies, the other is that he had a crush on Fay Wray (sp?) also from this town, though her movie King Kong was years earlier.

Shannon Tweed is also from here, along with a few other farm-girl-made-good types

PaulFitzwarryne

Heel-toe only requires one depression of the clutch regardless of why you are using the technique. Double declutch requires two depressions, but not necessarily any brake use, it all relates to the crude gearbox design; as RotaryMG said it is a real bitch unless you are a good driver.

REVHED

*sigh*

Double clutching and heel-toe shifting are two entirely different things... but they can also be done simultaneously.

Double clutching is not really needed these days unless you're trying to baby your gearbox and/or have worn synchros. It will not help you go any faster around a racetrack!

Heel-toe on the other hand allows you to match your engine speed to the road speed in the next gear while breaking and downshifting. This is done so as not to upset the balance of the car for the corner and to avoid compression lockup. You don't need double-clutching to achieve this!