bwomp969

im looking into no more than 1100$ full sleeved coil overs
anybody give advice?
BTW don't try and sell me stuff im saving up to that amount i do not have much money now seeing as i have no job will have a job soon( i hope)

1979rx-7

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re-speed.com They've got good stuff

When you buy the struts for a fb for the front billy told me you get the adapters so they work in our SA's for free

bwomp969

thats just a forum?
im looking for full sleeved coilovers

1979rx-7

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http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=108_112

there are two options forum or catalog

djessence

If you are looking for what i think you are, they are not available. next best thing is any thing from re-speed.

bwomp969

cant i modify a set from an fc? to fit my fb?

djessence

uhh, yeaaa....good luck with that.

I know one guy used some from a mustang but there is quite alot of geometry that goes into suspension and such sooo I hate to say if but if you have to ask then you probably cannot do it without ALOT of research and understanding of everything in the front end.

bwomp969

so im stuck with mediocre performance coil overs?
don't sound right?
i dont like that answer if its out there ill find a way or better coil overs

djessence

Well firstly no one who has any of re-speeds products , including their "coilovers", have anything but great things so say about the quality and performance.

Secondly you are dealing with a 28 year old vehicle so parts are not readily available or interchangable with anything unlike other makes such as the ever popular honda. Your model (SA) also happens to be the least interchangable with any FB let along any other rx model

Anything is possible with enough time, patience and skill. Or alot of money. It has been done but as i said ALOT of custom work is required. You would probably be better off doing an FC subframe/front clip (watever the **** you wanna call it) swap if you really want to use FC coilovers.

I know Kim (username i believe) has quite an extensive thread on that swap. Good luck, let us know your progress/luck finding products

DivinDriver

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"need suspension for FB 80 rx7 "

If your car's a 1980, it's not an FB... it's an SA.

OneRotor

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making fun of a product before you look at it or research it. good job *big thumbs up* Anyway, it's respeed or nothing for coil overs. why do you want coil overs so quickly?

bwomp969

ok for making fun of it i apoligize
i want coilovers because i want to lower to it and still get the same the same travel as even though its lowered.....i dont want the "smack" when i go over bumps and i have been told that full sleeve coilovers can do that

DivinDriver

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I didn't think coilovers affect travel... I thought they increased the effective spring rate for the shortened travel that results from lowering?

thunkrd

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i'm wondering whether to buy the respeed or the RB set. i will def buy the tokico struts from respeed... their price is good

Kentetsu

I believe that you are criticizing the Respeed coilovers due to a lack of understanding. No problem, that's what we're here for.

The Respeed coilovers will give you as much drop as you could possibly desire, while still maintaining full travel. You decide for yourself what spring rates you want to run, so if you just want the drop without a stiffer ride, you can get that too. Otherwise, you can take advantage of a higher spring rate to improve the handling of the car and kill two birds with one stone.

They have a street version, with an adapter that sits on the stock spring seat and allows adjustability. This will lower the car enough for street use, but not as low as the race version.

For the race version, you actually remove the stock spring seat from the strut, and weld on a new one at a lower location. This will allow you the most adjustability and the biggest drop, but again will still allow full suspension travel.

For the rear of the car, Respeed offers adjustable spring perches, which will allow you to set the rear ride height of the car wherever you want it.

Respeed makes excellent products. I'm not just guessing either, just take a look at my signature line. As far as performance goes, you can't beat it. I've run 4 races so far this year in one of the toughest classes (highly infested with modified Miatas) and am so far undefeated. When an fb can beat Miatas, then you know you're doing something right. In fact, it has been a long time since I have been beaten by even Porsches, and we get lots of nice 911s and 996s at our events.

If you would like to see my car in action, just click on the link in my thread. Most of these videos were taken before I installed the front coilovers, but you will get the idea. The car is even better today than it was then. I'll have updated videos going up, which show the car as it is now, probably within the next week.

Also, Respeed is not the only source for coilovers. G-Force engineering has been making them for years. When I made my purchase, I researched both options before making my choice, and I've never regretted it. I would recommend Respeed based on the quality of support and customer service alone, but since their products are first rate anyway it just makes it all that much easier.

Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be more than happy to help you out if I can. Good luck with your project!

P.S. If you intend to compete, then you might want to consider the camber plates as well. If you install them at the same time as the coilovers, it simplifies the process.

bwomp969

wow thankyou just doesnt seem justice

so im looking at respeed and my final goal is to do something like I saw you doing in your videos yet still be a daily driver
so im wondering what spring should i get? and what spring rate and why?
and thankyou very much once again

Kentetsu

Well, it sounds like we have similar goals. That is why I run in CSP class, because it allows you to make modifications that would improve the handling and performance of a street car, but doesn't pressure you into modifying your ride to the point that it would no longer be streetable.

I'm using spring rates of 275 front/150 rear. It works great for the races, and doesn't jar your fillings loose while daily driving (which I do).

Your best bet at this point would probably be to send Billy a PM (he runs the Respeed site). His name here on the forum is Bwaits. You can either ask your questions in the Private Message, or just direct him to this thread. He'll take good care of you either way. Hope this helps.

thunkrd

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so... respeed or RB that is the question :P
i like that the RB includes the springs and sway bars. just kinna wondering what would be a better daily driver / light performance. while still keeping cost down to a minimum

Kentetsu

Nothing wrong with the RB swaybar (front), but the rear bar can wait in my opinion. The springs will NOT drop your car, but will actually raise it up a bit (based on my experience and others who post here). The performance of the springs is okay, but if I had it to do over again I would go straight for the coilovers and save my money...

thunkrd

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thanks ken.
Respeed it is
my gf's in china now... so now is the time to do my upgrades to the car heheheheh

Joker1337

I'm also in the RB v ReSpeed question atm, so this is timely.

Did you install the coilovers on the front wheels only Ken, or also onto the rear? Were there any changes to the camber that you had to make afterwards to optimize the setup?

Kentetsu

Coilovers are only used on the front of the RX7s. For the rear, I use the Respeed adjustable spring perches, which serve the same purpose.

I do have the camber plates as well, and use them to set camber for races and then return it to stock settings for street use. I don't believe that they are strictly necessary if you don't intend to race. Lowering the car may have some effect on the camber settings, but there is some adjustability in the stock setup, which may be enough to offset the difference. Billy could tell you for sure...

thunkrd

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well. i'm wondering if billy or someone else could help us less knowledgeable first gen owners by putting together a kit. i'd like to buy it together if i could. i guess the main reason why i liked the RB was that it was a kit. nicely put together.. i was almost sold on it. so maybe if you guys put together a kit for respeed i might go for that more :P that is... if it was to stay around the same price range as the RB one

djessence

You could just put all the wanted items in your shopping cart and call it a kit....

I knew Kentetsu (ken maybe?) would chime in.

I am going to be running a very similar set up to him soon enough, except for the fact that I will be running the streetable set up and not the race version (a degree of laziness, and lack of skill/comfort in welding).

Its supposedly in the mail but has been for many weeks. This is NOT the fault of Billy, but due to the fact that I am in Canada and go through a third party.

Excellent customer service, answers questions and concerns very quickly. I'm excited for their product.

As for what bwomp was thinking about sleeved coilovers and whatnot, its best to get info from a reliable source instead of the "i heard from a guy who knew some stuff about some things" because there is alot of false info. Glad to see Kent's videos and knowlegde helped sway your mind.

Not to thread jack but since I know hes in here,Kentetsu, is your sterling completely stripped or did u retain any of the fast idle/choke stuff?

Kentetsu

No, my carb is bare naked.

If you really want a package, then just PM (privat message) Bwaits. Tell him what you want to do with the car, and he will put something together for you. I'm sure it will be more expensive than the RB stuff, but you are getting what you pay for. In my opinion, if you're going to do it then do it once and do it right...