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Old May 19, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
Torsen LSD = great road racing diff,smooth N/A power delivery is what it likes

Stock type 4 pinion clutch LSD = great drag race,high torque launching diff....I.E turbo.


I've two RX-7's. One is a spec7, so it's gotta have either the open diff (Ummm no.) or the GSL diff ( )...

The other is gonna be the nutcase street car. See sig as to what's going in it.

I forget who's running a hybrid GSL-SE engine with S5 N/A housings, but I believe they got over 200 HP outta that setup. I think that'll do nicely with the 4.3 gears and Torsen.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Old May 20, 2006 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cptpain
so if im pushing over 250hp i need some custom work done right? i dont want to go too extreme cause then i would go for a ford 8.8 and thats not very drift friendly


EDIT: i like to drift and drag...so i need a setup that will keep these things and still be driveable!

why do you say the 8.8 is not drift friendly? its is a solid axle just like the stock rearend its only stronger. and a little more weight...if you get it cut down to the stock specs then i see no reason why it would be "not very drift frendley" as you say

can you plz give more info as to why you say this?
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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better rear end, handles more power,more power,fater drifts
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
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One thing to know is that the Miata Torsen is going to be break happy at anything over 250whp. I know miata guys who will not run them with sticky tires and anything close to 200whp. Torsen diffs are not as strong as LSD's. So for clarification I can sawp a FC LSD with my gears into my 84 housing and the axles will pop right in??
Check the KAAZ part number provided....it's clutch, not torsen. Miata's run both Clutch and Torsen just like FC's....check your models/specs S4 models used clutch LSD's.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Most of the 240SX's and AE86's that I've been keeping up with on the drifting scene prefer the Kaaz clutch-type.

Plus being rebuildable is a plus, isn't it?
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Old May 22, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 81gsl12a
why do you say the 8.8 is not drift friendly? its is a solid axle just like the stock rearend its only stronger. and a little more weight...if you get it cut down to the stock specs then i see no reason why it would be "not very drift frendley" as you say

can you plz give more info as to why you say this?
i was merely thinking to myself as i have not heard of anyone having an 8.8 in their fb and drift...but thats just me....
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Slammed_GSL
Check the KAAZ part number provided....it's clutch, not torsen. Miata's run both Clutch and Torsen just like FC's....check your models/specs S4 models used clutch LSD's.
The stock miata is a Torsen dif. any aftermarket dif will work, hanse teh Kaaz, but the stock Miata torsen will not hold over 200rwhp they's why miata guys switch to a clutch LSD..
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Old May 22, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by steve84GS TII
Torsen LSD = great road racing diff,smooth N/A power delivery is what it likes

Stock type 4 pinion clutch LSD = great drag race,high torque launching diff....I.E turbo

The nature of the stock clutch LSD makes it grip harder,the more HP you pump into it.Even when worn out or lacking preload,they will hook up when the power kicks in,its just how they work.They cab be treacherous too due to lockup under decel and chatter when driving normally.But they are far more robust than the complex Torsen type LSD.

No such thing as an 83 SE....84-85 only.
All the 84-85 cars had bigger axles,so no its not a direct swap.You can do it,but youll have to rebuild the diff with 84-85 side gears,hardly worth it.

If you are talking about an 83 LE,then yes you can swap the 82 GSL pumpkin right in.Youll need to run the 82 driveshaft or change the flange to match the 83's driveline.
I keep hearing this about the 82 to 83 swap but I didn't do anything besides bolt up the 82 diff to my 83 driveshaft.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotor13B
I keep hearing this about the 82 to 83 swap but I didn't do anything besides bolt up the 82 diff to my 83 driveshaft.
He was talking about going the other way there would be no bennifit from moving from a 82 to 83 rear end both had small axles.
78-83 small axles
84-85 big axles
78-82 large pinnion flange
83-85 small pinion flange

Incase you don't know the flange is what bolts the drive shaft to the rear end.
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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i swapped out my stock 79 rear end with A 85 SE to get disk brakes and limited slip. is their a better setup? for that price and amount of work ( $75 for the diff. and like an hour of labor)
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Ok guys, while we're at it.. I have an 85 SE and I will be doing alot of drag racing, I also have the 13b turbo engine and tranny, and plan to use drag radials and mabye even slicks..I'm not at the point that I want a new rear, but I want something that will hold up..I really, really need to do something about my LSD, it feels like an open diff..What would be my cheapest and easiest solution..Sorry for the hijack
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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this thread is picking up...

keep at it guys i know that one day someone will make a thread about rebuild the GSL-SE LSD's who knows it maybe me!
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