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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Lightening The FB: The True Story

So I'm doing raceprep on another one of my cars, this time for SCCA's E-Production class. This weekend I stripped the car down pretty much to the bare tub (still has the gas tank and suspension on it until I get ready to put the cage in). I decided to save all the crap I took out of it to weigh since there's a few people that tell people you can't lighten the car much by taking the carpetting, padding, and tar out of it.

I rounded up the padding, put it in a box and weighed it. The box weighed 2.25 pounds on a small veggie scale, and the box with the crap in it weighed 23 pounds on what I consider an accurate bathroom scale (my two 15lb barbells registered at 30). So, in doing some simple math, this tells us just the nappy padding weighs ~20 pounds (YMMV).

BTW - this is alllll of the padding, including the impossible-to-remove-without-stripping-the-entire-interior-out piece on the firewall.

Remember, the carpet and tar is still in the car! From past experiences I know the tar is anywhere from 15-25 pounds (depending on year and who installed it). I'll be sure to post the results from that as soon as I get all that crap out.

I'll have some pictures later, it's hot and I'm lazy.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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I have feeling the tar won't be anymore than 5lbs.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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wrong, a friend and i have pulled the tar from one of my fb's and from his fc. i got around 40lbs from my WHOLE CAR. i chissled it aaaaalll. collected it all in a big *** bag and threw it on the scales. i may still have the pic. it's worth it if you are needing a diet for the car.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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How's that sound? It's loud enough without carpet or insulation lol
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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30 some odd pounds from mine if I remember right off the top of my head.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyRotary
How's that sound? It's loud enough without carpet or insulation lol
It's not very pleasant for a daily, but I drove a Spec7 as a daily driver for ~9 mos. You get to hear every little rock that hits the car, too.

PS - I already know the tar weighs at least 20 pounds, but I've never completely de-tarred a car before. Therefore, I'm guessing it'll be more this time around!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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yea, get it aaaaalllll. i actually have fun using my air chissle
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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Careful not to cut the body with that air hammer.

Carpet, tar, and various trim was about 65lbs. After daily driving that car for a couple years (and removing another 150lbs or so), I'm happy to say my newest one is keeping the weight penalty in the name of comfort. I'll spend money on power to compensate for the time I'd spend removing weight and adding the safety gear.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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air chizzle, just freeze it with dryice and then smack it with a hammer and it comes up in big chunks! You only need about 25lbs. and you can get it at your local grocery store for about $5 per 3lbs
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by christaylor
It's not very pleasant for a daily, but I drove a Spec7 as a daily driver for ~9 mos. You get to hear every little rock that hits the car, too.

PS - I already know the tar weighs at least 20 pounds, but I've never completely de-tarred a car before. Therefore, I'm guessing it'll be more this time around!

I know what you mean. My RX-3 is the same way. No carpet nor have any of that tar insulation. Much lighter than a SA and RX-2. It was my daily driver til the gas prices went up.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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I had about 30lbs out of my SA just from the front of the car. The hatch area already removed.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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I spilt some MMO in my trunk, and it lifted the tar crap right off the metal.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by smnc
I spilt some MMO in my trunk, and it lifted the tar crap right off the metal.
LOL... that's one way to do it.... I'm actually having a little fun with the trunk in my FB... The old carpet in the rear is coming out, but for daily driving, I'm making a carbon fiber shelf with a thin bit of carpet on top... This way I can carry things easily in the trunk, and it still looks halfway decent...

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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Did you decide if you were going to blast the car or dip it. Looks like I'm building a car as well.
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by smnc
I spilt some MMO in my trunk, and it lifted the tar crap right off the metal.
diesel should work even better
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Probably, but MMO smells better...
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Probably, but MMO smells better...
amen to that, mmo is like candy, i was so tempted once i tasted it, not bad actually
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Mmmm... minty... you know it has that big ol' skull and crossbones on the bottle for a reason, right?
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Old Sep 28, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cpa7man
Did you decide if you were going to blast the car or dip it. Looks like I'm building a car as well.
Haven't decided yet. I picked up some checmical stripper, and depending on how that works I may just use that to get the paint off then a DA to lighten it.

Keep me posted on what's going on... it's easier to build two cars at once than two cars seperately!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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After much deliberation, I have finally decided that MMO smells like. . . . . . . . .




PEPTO BISMOL.
If you ALSO note, Pepto Bismol comes in a rotor shaped container. . .
since MMO is one of the 'miracle juices' for our car. . . I'm suspicious!
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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I dont know about pepto bismol man. I am thinking that you need to smell the 2 side by side to get a more accurate comparison. It is funny that it is in rotor shaped bottle though.
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