I am thinking about getting this kit for safety and ***** and giggles. Any body here have experiance with these? Where would you mount the nozzle on a carby? Would assume drill the carb spacer out some?


http://coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=01250TBF

For those who dont know i have a 12a blow through setup!!!

Manly i would want it to come on over 10lbs and as a huge safety messure for when my turbo does spike and creep!!!


I suppose i could run it like a fogger right in the carb hat or inlet charge pipe?

 

Meth is bad. Don't do drugs. j/k

No experience with those.. but should work fine

 

It all depends on where you want the cooling. If it is a fine enough mist, you can place it after your filter, so it goes first into the turbine. This absorbs tons of heat right off the bat. I know that water can be done the same, but after time it wears the turbine, not sure if meth is the same. But you can basically put it before the turbine, before the IC, after the IC, or right up to the carb hat.

Methanol will not cure your creep/spike though, that is more of a hardware issue (WG not big enough for the S4 turbos) but it will help prevent detonation.

 

Good one Kent..........I have thought about doing this as well. Snow Performance makes a kit also. At 10 psi it's supposed to add another 50+ hp. I think that I'll wait till I get a half bridge blowthrough to play with.........

 

Here's the Snow kit....... http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

 

i am aware it wont fix the creep but i am not gonna stay at stock levels for ever and i want meth lol nah not really would run water. Also a nice cleaning agent for engine! When i get more experianced with this setup i will ditch the turbo in favor of t4 or a bnr or something. This is just a precausion thats all!

Yeah i am thinking i am just gonna plumb it in like N20 tons of experiance with that stuff! only concern is the nozzle isnt angled like a N20 fogger. might have to ditch theres in favor of a Shark nozzle and a 100 shot pill inside

 

Also, if you are using it just to help with the 10lbs, keep water as an option too. Cheaper and does the same job for the boost levels you are running, for the most part.

Plus if you run out of water, just go to a gas station and get more

 

Windshield washer fluid..........50% water, 50% Methonol

 

Yeah was just going to mention washer fluid. Have to be very careful with pure methanol, burns with a colorless flame.

 

wonder if i could get it to work with the washer jug my old carter 7 psi pump and a n20 fogger and WOT window switch...........only thing that might not work is carter pump!!!! but with the 75 pill in the fogger thats a little bit bigger than a pin hole might be a fine enough mist

 

Use the stock washer pump, but I highly doubt that will build the pressure. But use the power lines for the washer pump, that way, you can have on hand on the wheel and one on the washer lever. Floor it and let inertia do its thing!

 

That for sure wont be enough and now that i think about it i dont think 7 psi will be enough either. more than likely need upwards of 70psi. Might be cheaper to buy a kit than piece on togther! looking at homemade setups now. would be better on a carb to either have wot switch or boost senitve hooked to wot switch!!!

 

I would try boost sensitive before WOT, since you have boost creeping. I'll look around and report any findings if you like.

 

Read this......... http://static.summitracing.com/globa.../sno-20001.pdf

 

Indeed The lack of a solenoid concerns me even if the jug is below the nozzle. Even that check valve is kinda a farce if the tank remained pressurized without a solenoid whats to stop it from bleeding right into the intake tract. Meaning if the tank is pressurized your left with two options blowing the cap and or ruptering the tank or water just dunmping in the engine. I would think you would want this sytem to be like N20 cycleing pump to keep line pressureized before solenoid wot or boost senstive switch to activate solenoid to release into intake tract.

Like i said i am thinking about this from a pure mechanical view like a N20 system would function. After all its the same idea on a wet system with the extra gas instead its water!

The toal idea here is to lower intake temps without haveing to run overly rich on the carb to cool the temps down. Loss of power and a waste of my gas lol. water injection lowers intake temps down almost 150f sometimes. I am sure even after the intercooler intake temps are over 300.


I have been thinking about this and did some digging and found kims old thread and thought this is a viable idea

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/water-methanol-injection-install-w-pics-519862/

Just want every ones opions and experiance with this. It might be better suited for the fd section for my research though!

 

I run the snow performance kit on my camden. I spray above the carb in the air cleaner but will be chaning that soon. Before, you could barelt touch the 14" air cleaner base after a good run, with the spray it was "cold". The stuff is amazing. The meth itself does not add power, it cools the charge and increases octane which permits higher boost and more timing, so you must tune for it to get more power.

 

And "DO NOT" put the spray "BEFORE" the turbo. Even the fine mist will cause impact to the delicate turbine blades.

 

Power spect is just a plus for me if i want it....its there type of thing just looking to keep internals cooler is main idea. Would suck to flaten springs from to much heat. Purely safety messure here. When i ran N20 on other cars i took every step and precaution i could think off,turbo is no diffrent in my eyes! Never even though off that option its bad. Got in a argument in the turbo section about guys useing N20 before the turbo to aid in turbo spool. While this works i would hate to see what happens when the N20 pools inside turbo. While unlikely in a dry form its still ver possible to happen. I saw a nitrous back fire shoot the intake right off a h22 honda it wasnt cool. I have also seen what happens when a biottle blanket gets left on bye bye garage door!

 

As Latin i think said, the pure methanol burns clear. Had some pretty bad experiences with methanol powered go karts. nuff said

Is this thing like what the subaru STI has. The little water injection button?q

 

Do you have any pictures of how you have your nozzle mounted? How well does it work for cooling your camden? Any noticable temp diffrence?

 

The STI comes with a water spray for the intercooler. Completely different.

 

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I have my nozzle in my carb hat. I am running the variable controller from cooling mist. For now its just keeping things safe with the 91 octane we get here in Cali. I will be tuning for the meth in a few weeks to get some power out of this stuff. As someone else mentioned you need to tune for the meth by pulling fuel out. Seems to make a difference when I am at WOT near redline in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. Most likely because I am starting to get lean.

Also I tried the 50 water 50 meth thing and was getting some hesitation when I would step on the gas. Switched to straight meth and no issues.

Buy the controller and nozzle from cooling mist and source your lines and tank else where.

 

If at all possible - look into using e85 as your fuel. You will run muuuch cooler, and be able to run more boost without any additional hardware. Not to mention, it's cheaper than premium.

 

E85 isa a viable choice here in wisconsin where it orginated from lol. its not cheap here though 3.40 a gallon!!!!!

 

I didnt know e85 was safe for are engines though!!!!