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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Doctor, I dare say, that auto-mobility apparatus has caused my monacle to dislodge itself from my spherical vision device

My best to you and your family for the Holidays..
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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AWS you add $1000 to your offer and you got a deal.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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cant afford it before the holidays, but after the holidays we could negotiate that seems pretty reasonable to me
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Unlike retail stores, my prices go up before the holidays Supply and demand biotches!!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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I had a S4 TII engine that looked like that on both front and rear housings when I tore it down. Both front and rear housings and rotors were trashed. The irons were in perfect condition though. All three apexes on both rotors were in at least 3 pieces or more. There was one apex that i found in at least 7 or 8 pieces jambed in the slot. Never seen anything that bad before.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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That really makes me fear what my other engine is going to look like. The one I blew a week before the yellow bananna blew up. Oh well. Luckily for me, my spare one pulled apart and looked good, no scratching or anything on the inside.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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I expected to see more damage to the seals then just the one rear that was missing the center of one of the apex seals. On the front housing where I just found a piece of the corner seal missing. I still wonder if something got sucked up the intake or Ben was just taching out about 10k
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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OUCH!!! were the closing edges bevelled? pic looks a little hazy to me.
looks like the seal may have been catching the edge, if they were new seals it should have gone way longer than 7-8k....
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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This is what my rotor looked like after putting a supercharger on a 140,000 km engine and pushing it. Tore up the housing real good too.
Attached Thumbnails Just finsihed tearing motor apart..-blown-apex-seal.jpg   Just finsihed tearing motor apart..-blown-rotor.jpg  
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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That happened to my friend's high mileage J-spec RE-EGI (GSL-SE) engine after running a year with a supercharger. The apex that broke was down to 5.5mm. Not bad, actually.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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That happened to my friend's high mileage J-spec RE-EGI (GSL-SE) engine after running a year with a supercharger. The apex that broke was down to 5.5mm. Not bad, actually.
It was probably a semi-decent motor if it lasted a year with having high mileage.

Normally with the superchargers and non-fresh motors they tend to grenade shortly after install, especially with non-turbo built motors. They usually go when the person puts the supercharger on and attempts to do their fine tuning

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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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yep nothin like a high strung 20 year old motor.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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The apex seals didn't have any funny wear on them. They were also still relatively slop free in their slots. It would seem the GSL-SE rotor housing oil injectors are far superior to carb OMP oiling. Apex minimum spec height is 7mm. These were well below that.

Looking at them from the top, they looked perfect. From the side, nope.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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The Se engine components seem to be very forgiving.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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They're very similar to '76-'78 and the later nitrided R5 13Bs from the '80s. I'd say the sole reason for the longer lasting internals is simply due to direct oiling.

I took a look at my dead GSL-SE rotor and the side and oil seals are in remarkably good condition considering just how much wear (and possible abuse) this thing had. Probably 150k miles.

Of course the rotor housings have extra internal bracing which holds the shape of the trochoid surface better. '83-'85 12A rotor housings have this too.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
looks like the seal may have been catching the edge, if they were new seals it should have gone way longer than 7-8k....
my thoughts exactly.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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Can you tell us where cowboy bought this engine from?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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rotarywarehouse in North Carolina
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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I went on there site^^ and it says they're located in Rancho Cordova, California
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Looks like they sold out. Thats definately not the same company that built mine.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Oh, thats weird. What do you guys think about rotarywarehouse in cali? I read the info about the guy who builds them and he seems like he's really good.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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yeah, this guy seems like he really has his stuff together, and the ports look really nice.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Ok, I think i'll go with them then. Good prices too.
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