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Old 05-26-14, 10:49 AM
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So after 6 months of dormancy my wife went down and woke up my 84 gslse. Not one bit of smoke came out of it when it first started. Had them take it out and it ran great. Is this normal? I was expecting some oil to burn off. It's like it didn't even know it was in the garage for 6 months.
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If the motor is in good condition it should not smoke after long break
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Originally Posted by WJM ROTARIES
If the motor is in good condition it should not smoke after long break
It has 135k miles and I used to red line it daily. Honestly I'm kind of shocked.
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The GSL-SE is the best 13B ever made. Mazda realized their mistake and added a little bit of planned obsolescence into the FC engines.
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The GSL-SE is the best 13B ever made. Mazda realized their mistake and added a little bit of planned obsolescence into the FC engines.
I believe that. It puts down great power with an exhaust and header and seems to be basically bulletproof
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I believe that. It puts down great power with an exhaust and header and seems to be basically bulletproof
Thats because they ARE bulletproof.
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Originally Posted by wankel=awesome
Thats because they ARE bulletproof.


Friend of mine murdered his 79 12a and seems to think it'd beyond repair. Didn't run it for months and then ran into with no oil because he didn't check hid dipstick. Needless to say it didn't last long. It seems the 12a motors weren't as tough as the 13b from the beginning but I could be wrong.
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Friend of mine murdered his 79 12a and seems to think it'd beyond repair. Didn't run it for months and then ran into with no oil because he didn't check hid dipstick. Needless to say it didn't last long. It seems the 12a motors weren't as tough as the 13b from the beginning but I could be wrong.
No rotary will run without OIL
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Originally Posted by WJM ROTARIES
No rotary will run without OIL


aha I'd think that for just about every type of engine that operates in a vehicle.
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aha I'd think that for just about every type of engine that operates in a vehicle.
Yes but a rota will stop first and a pisston can rattle for a long time before it eventually disintergrates
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Originally Posted by rebel101150
Friend of mine murdered his 79 12a and seems to think it'd beyond repair. Didn't run it for months and then ran into with no oil because he didn't check hid dipstick. Needless to say it didn't last long. It seems the 12a motors weren't as tough as the 13b from the beginning but I could be wrong.
I think the 12a's are just as tough, but the real 2+2=5 effect that the GSLSE 13b has for longevity was having both 3mm apex seals AND proper oil injection. 12a's oil metering dribble into the carb wasnt nearly as effective at lubrication as the "new" oil injector system used on 84 up 13b's.

I premix 12a's and drive the **** out of them and never worry about a thing. They seem to be the most reliable when you beat them everyday.
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Originally Posted by wankel=awesome
I think the 12a's are just as tough, but the real 2+2=5 effect that the GSLSE 13b has for longevity was having both 3mm apex seals AND proper oil injection. 12a's oil metering dribble into the carb wasnt nearly as effective at lubrication as the "new" oil injector system used on 84 up 13b's.

I premix 12a's and drive the **** out of them and never worry about a thing. They seem to be the most reliable when you beat them everyday.

just noticed your in ohio. I live in PA near the ohio border. I don't think i've ever posted an image of my car but it's fairly clean for a car that's been in PA it's entire life.

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i've since removed the wing and stickers. I bought it with the body kit but I could never figure out where it came from. And yes I know it needs a paint job and a few cracks repaired. It scrapes in PA coming off even my driveway but has never been lowered. it's just such a hilly area.


on another note I think my oil lines are starting to crack. I will pop the hood after running for a while and notice a few drips of oil in the engine bay near them. I thought about going premix or replacing the lines.

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Lol I bought a nikki carb just recently from Butler PA...


My car has been in the northeast its entire life too!

Mine only had 2 places where it started to think about rusting. Luckily I caught them before I painted it. Bottoms of both doors, and the drivers side inner storage bin. Otherwise its in great shape.
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13b's have their own life expectancy, as mine just stopped developing enough compression with the starter to leave me stranded this past weekend @ 220k miles. The engine will be replaced with a 135k mi core which I bought from a member here over 10 years ago, and the spare engine has sat on a stand for that long with me spinning it 1 full revolution every few weeks for the whole time to exercise the seals. It still spins easily by hand with solid and hard 'pops' as the ports open and close.

Will have to wait for cooler weather to install it, but at least it'll be back on the road for another ~80k miles or so - getting me up to 300k miles on the body/chassis. These cars and engines will last a long time if you take good care of them; routine oil changes and fluids.

My 12a (80LS) went 220k mi as well, so maybe I'm onto something here...
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Originally Posted by wankel=awesome
Lol I bought a nikki carb just recently from Butler PA...


My car has been in the northeast its entire life too!

Mine only had 2 places where it started to think about rusting. Luckily I caught them before I painted it. Bottoms of both doors, and the drivers side inner storage bin. Otherwise its in great shape.
haha nice to see another northerner rotary guy. Know any shops that will do a porting job? i'm trying to find one but alas no one in the area would dare touch it. The words I got were "it doesn't take a good mechanic to work on a rotary it takes a lucky one" from the local performance shop.





[/QUOTE] 13b's have their own life expectancy, as mine just stopped developing enough compression with the starter to leave me stranded this past weekend @ 220k miles. The engine will be replaced with a 135k mi core which I bought from a member here over 10 years ago, and the spare engine has sat on a stand for that long with me spinning it 1 full revolution every few weeks for the whole time to exercise the seals. It still spins easily by hand with solid and hard 'pops' as the ports open and close.

Will have to wait for cooler weather to install it, but at least it'll be back on the road for another ~80k miles or so - getting me up to 300k miles on the body/chassis. These cars and engines will last a long time if you take good care of them; routine oil changes and fluids.

My 12a (80LS) went 220k mi as well, so maybe I'm onto something here... [/QUOTE]



220k miles is a hell of a run. I ran my car hard but I didn't even realize until I looked at the odometer that it was less than 300 miles last year. To the store 2 miles each way redlining and enjoying the curvy roads. hopefully I won't have to replace my engine for a long time.
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In PA, theres actually a business dedicated to salvaging old RX7's and doing all the related engine/chassis work (to include porting). Google Rhineharts Performance, you'll instantly find like 50 things you need to buy on their inventory page haha.
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Originally Posted by wankel=awesome
In PA, theres actually a business dedicated to salvaging old RX7's and doing all the related engine/chassis work (to include porting). Google Rhineharts Performance, you'll instantly find like 50 things you need to buy on their inventory page haha.
ill definitely check it out
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