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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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IRS experts?

I need tax help.







No seriously. I have available to me several scrap FC's.

I already have the front subframe, rack, steering column, etc ready to go in. Dependant on if it's going to someone else or not, an S5 N/A engine. (For the rotors only), and various other FC bits...

I remember readong somewhere that the FB test mule was used to test the FC suspension.

Since the front subframe bolts up, I was thinking that the rear shouldn't be TOO hard to bolt in, being that the "frame rails" (Yes. I know unibody doesn't have frame rails, hence the quotes.) would be the same width...

I might experiment with that. However, people have said that the FC rear suspension is of a shitty design. (I'd be eliminating the passive steering)...

What is it that makes Trailing link design bad over perhaps 4 link. What do they use on the Miata?

Or perhaps I should just stick with the solid axle with a panhard and three link...

I dunno. Just playing with what I got in the back yard.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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The book showing the development of the 2nd gen shows the a few first gen mules with IRS. I don't/wouldn't think that it would be close though. I think one of the issues with doing an IRS in a FB is that you may have to think outside of the box, ie: outside of the mazda parts bin. If you're not runing much power, say <300hp, I think I would look into a subaru (leagacy, impreza) IRS, maybe even a datsun 510 (with a nissan diff, you would have many more ratios to choose from too). If I thought a IRS would make *that much* of a differance, I'd most likly try to fab something up (and I'm sure it would alread be a kit for it, though with that logic a R&P kit would have been made years ago), but *I* don't think it would make much of a differance in out right handeling, but ride comfort would(could) be greatly improved with an IRS.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Damn, I recently gave away a rear end from a 280ZX (disc brakes to). Wonder if that could have been worked into something along these lines? Dang it, I wonder if she still has it? lol.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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im looking for a swap of a better option for rearend on my car , dont have to be irs but some that will hold 450 rwhp without going ford 9" (too heavy).
any ideas
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sgen
im looking for a swap of a better option for rearend on my car , dont have to be irs but some that will hold 450 rwhp without going ford 9" (too heavy).
any ideas

how about a ford 8.8 out of the '03/'04 SVT 'Stang? it's IRS and capable of holding stupid amounts of power (the last SVT was extremely under rated at 390/390. MM & FF tested parts, and with a x-pipe, cat back, and cold air intake it threw down 400/480 at the rear wheels).
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Also there's the ford 8" which is good for that much power.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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The 280 rear end is ideal... they are very well designed for drifting and such. I was recommending that to autopaul for the irs design.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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what year ford is the 8"
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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look at the irs that jimlab is doing over in the 3rd gen section that should give some ideas
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I want it to go in without too much fabrication and welding to my frame...

I don't have the resources for dead on accurate fabrication of something as sensitive as suspension.
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