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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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I KNEW someone would say that. A Cosmo IS NOT, a sportscar.


Which Cosmo are you thinking of? There were four generations of Cosmo. Only one (the second generation, the RX-5) was officially sold in the US, although there are some first-generation models (110S) that found their way here.


And besides, you know what I meant. No need to mask it in sarcasm.
No, I don't know what you meant.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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I don't really consider any of the rx's to be sportscars like the rx7 is. That's what I'm saying.

Oh, on that note, I just watched a show about road ralley in europe and some dude in an rx-4 was doin real good. I'm not saying they're bad cars y'know.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Wow, it is a bit hostile here....lol. I myself am thinking of doing a v-8 swap. Its a rough decision cause of the coolness factor of having a rotary versus the expense of actually fixing a worn motor. V-8's are far more plentiful than rotarys are but I don't want the stinkbug handling.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 12:32 AM
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Wow, it is a bit hostile here....lol. I myself am thinking of doing a v-8 swap. Its a rough decision cause of the coolness factor of having a rotary versus the expense of actually fixing a worn motor. V-8's are far more plentiful than rotarys are but I don't want the stinkbug handling.
It's going to cost the same (maybe less) to swap in a v-8 as to rebuld mine and get it back in. The handling from what i've heard with actual v-8 owners doesn't suffer much, just need to tune the suspension accordingly.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by excitingleopard
I don't really consider any of the rx's to be sportscars like the rx7 is. That's what I'm saying.

Oh, on that note, I just watched a show about road ralley in europe and some dude in an rx-4 was doin real good. I'm not saying they're bad cars y'know.
No one's talking about the Rx-5 or any other Rx for that matter. Peejay's talking about the Cosmo 110s which was Mazda's first production rotary and is definately a sports car. Hell, it was even called the Cosmo Sport for the Japanese market.

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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Thanks Revhed. Yes, The Cosmo 110S... Also known as the L10A or L10B.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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Oh....... ok got yeh
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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They should have called it.....the Mazda Thunderbird-Z.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Have you guys ever read the specs for that thing? The thing is faster than a stock GSL-SE!!! And it has a wimpy 10A! Rack and pinion steering too.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Screw the R&P, that bitch has a de Dion rear suspension!

What's a de Dion?

It's a solid axle rear suspension, with the differential mounted to the body, for reduced unsprung weight, while maintaining the camber control advantage that a solid axle has. (If you ever looked under the back of a AWD Dodge Caravan, it has a leaf sprung de Dion suspension)

de Dion was the height of coolness back then.

Basically Mazda spared no expense when designing the 110S. Similar to how Toyota made the 2000GT, another forgotten sports coupe from the late 60's.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by timmya2
O 16581 72452 5 i think its kewl how u discuss your ideas here in the forum.. almost like a diary..


so later on in life.. u can see all the fu were planning to do.. or u done.. or yur past plans.. etc.. im drunk


but seriously... i think its kewl how u see wat everyones opinion is.. before u go ahead with it..

i mean.. this is wat the forum is for.. is it not?

so 3 cheers for britanica barcode

hip hip hooray!!
OH GOD PLEASE dont encourage him anymore... Anyone ever wonder why I dont come around here much anymore? Started having too much bullshit in here...
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
OH GOD PLEASE dont encourage him anymore... Anyone ever wonder why I dont come around here much anymore? Started having too much bullshit in here...
I thought you were just trying to be like me
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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I think thats awsome!!
However merely a drag racing machine and no more. THere is a Mitsubishi Starion with a 406 big block chevy motor in it on autotrader too. http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/v...r=&cardist=149 Thats not a bad price too if its in good shape. Oops wait a sec! This is an rx7 forum!
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
I thought you were just trying to be like me


For some fucked up reason I still keep coming though.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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A 406 is a .030-over 400 small block. Not a big block.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
OH GOD PLEASE dont encourage him anymore... Anyone ever wonder why I dont come around here much anymore? Started having too much bullshit in here...
A-frigging-men.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Now now, we can't pick on him too much. I'm sure that you can tell by the post that he's just easily misled by his mustang fanatic friends. So just leave him to his look at me games, and I'm gonna's, because he'll eventually give up, and buy a rustang, and ebay the 7 as a rolling chassis.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Speaking as someone who has done the swap, and actually ownes a running V8 RX-7, I really need to address some of the things said in this post.

1. "I don't car what people say, a V8 RX7 will never handle like a rotory powered one"
Correct. Any change will cause things to be different. My 302 RX may only pull 1.2G's in full race trim vs. 1.3G's with a rotory motor, however I promise I'll be lapping 2-3 seconds faster thanks to the torque coming off turns. Personally though I'd like to know how you made this assumption. I'm making it because I know where the CG of the 302 is, most people jsut assume the weight balance is all fugged up, or the car plows like a pig. My background is I've raced a 12a for the last 2 years, and now I race my 302 in tight autoX settings. It handles everybit as well as my 12a did, only it's about 1,000,000 times more fun to drive.

2. "V8 RX-7's are drag race only"

TOTALLY FALSE. I take my car up the mountains twice a month. It handles great, with no more understeer than the stock car, and as much oversteer as I want. I autoX it every chance I get, and usually win. I distroyed a Z-06 this last race, and with race tires probably would have been in the top 5. This is on my bone stock suspension. As it was I was less than 3 seconds off FTD in a Saleen with full track suspension and slicks. Anyone that says the car handles poorly just proves to me they have no idea what they're talking about.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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All this talk about pistons is making my rotors hurt

85rotarypower:

I have ridden in 2 V8 Rx7s, both 302's. I have a close friend that I raced in my GSL-SE. He pretty much destroyed me in the straights but I could pull away in the turns. Note, the difference was not huge but it was noticable. We are always messing with each other which is best.....but soon the SE will rule in all aspects, not just handling

Personally, I love rotaries. The design, and engineering envolved is amazing. I don't down V8's their just not my thing. But what I said is true.....they don't handle the same.

Good luck to all

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned or if I am even right, but isn't the deck height on a 351W a few inches higher than a 302? If so it wouldn't fit under the hood. Go 302.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Winnipeg85GSL
Don't know if this has been mentioned or if I am even right, but isn't the deck height on a 351W a few inches higher than a 302? If so it wouldn't fit under the hood. Go 302.
I don't know about the deck height, but it is about 2 inches wider at the top.
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