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Old 02-12-07, 02:01 PM
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I Need Help With This Picture What Year You Think It Came From

I NEED HELP WITH THIS PICTURE WHAT YEAR DO YOU THINK IT CAME FROM
DO YOU THINK IT CAME FROM A TURBO OR NON TURBO ENGINE
AND IF IT WHERE A TURBO ENGINE CAN I RUN IT WITHOUT a TURBO
WILL IT RUN OK WITHOUT THE TURBO OR WOULD IT RUN LIKE A COW
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is it a 12a? 13b? im guessin 13b... what do the exhaust ports look like will let you know if its turbo ot NA.... it would run ok with out a turbo
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Need more/better/closer pics of the front, the logo, spark plugs and ports.
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I Know I'mma Need The Front Se Cover And Oil Pan To Make It Right For My 1st Gen
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is it a 12a? or a 13b? it says on the side of the housing next the spark plug holes...
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Its A 13b
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thought so... ok look in to the exhaust port and do you see a defuser??
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Heres A Pic Of The Side
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What You Think Its Worth Does It Look Ported I Know Its Gotta Be A Second Gen 13b Maybe Like A 86 87 88 89 90
91 Has A Plastic Water Inlet
And 3rd Gen 13b Is Completly Different
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its a 76-78 13b with an fc water pump
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Give Me A Break 13b Didnt Come About Til 1984
I'm Asking For Help Thats All
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They Told ME Its Bridge Ported
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13b has been around for many years b4 1986
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
its a 76-78 13b with an fc water pump
Right on + it looks like it had som work done to the runners and exhaust.
Look inside of the runners to see if its bridgeportet, if you cant tell by that, you need to do a search.
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How can you tell it's a late 70s 13B? I mean, I believe you, but I can't figure out what you saw to give it away.

Anyway if that is what it really is you don't need the GSL-SE front cover since the old style motors had the right mounts for the 1st gen and distributor, you may need the GSL-SE oil pan, not 100% sure.
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Originally Posted by lovemyrx7se
Give Me A Break 13b Didnt Come About Til 1984
I'm Asking For Help Thats All
try 74

post a pic of the mazda script by where it says 13b.
if it is a bridge port you ought to be able to reach your finger in the ports and feel the "bridge"
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Originally Posted by fluffysheap
How can you tell it's a late 70s 13B? I mean, I believe you, but I can't figure out what you saw to give it away.

Anyway if that is what it really is you don't need the GSL-SE front cover since the old style motors had the right mounts for the 1st gen and distributor, you may need the GSL-SE oil pan, not 100% sure.
No injector holes or EGR port in the center iron.
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Originally Posted by fluffysheap
How can you tell it's a late 70s 13B? I mean, I believe you, but I can't figure out what you saw to give it away.

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the rotor housings from 74-75 have a big font MAZDA, the 76-80 housings have those "wierd" casting ribs on the top. the 81+ rotor housings dont.

other tip off is the 12a style intake gasket pattern, smaller exhaust ports etc etc
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It's a bastard (kinda like the thread starter... kidding).

Notice the intermediate plate looks a lot like a tall port Y casting from a 1st gen 12A. The rear plate is also a Y casting, as is the front. The rotor housings are from a thermal reactor '76-'78 US spec engine. Notice the air bleed ports have been filled in, and the shape of the exhaust sleeves. The waterpump housing is 2nd gen, probably S4 ('86-'88). Alternator is most likely '84 or newer 55 amp or more.

So there you have it, yah bastard.
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Agreed.....nice call, Jeff!

Looks like a nice engine.Not suitible for EFI,although that wouldnt be impossible,just have to put the injectors in the manifold.
The housings used to build it arent the highest tech/newest,but that hardly matters so long as whoever built it knew what they were doing.
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wow you guys amaze me with all of that knowledge. mad props.
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am I the only one that noticed the hugemongous sig? Can't wait to see how long that lasts.

if you use it your going to buy it you might want to find out how long its been sitting and how its been stored. If its in some guys dirty garage with all those open ports and oil filler.
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