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http://www.kcraceware.com/ anyone know them?

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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http://www.kcraceware.com/ anyone know them?

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seems like they have a few good things in there ... just curious if anyone has bought anything or know someone that has.

http://www.kcraceware.com/

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Hmmm, they are just down the Interstate from me in KC, and I'm not familiar with them. Have heard the name though.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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i'm mostly interested in they 5 link setup. I've never seen anything like it, and wounder how exactly it mounts in there ... maybe you should pay them a visit Scott
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Maybe I should, but then you're going to tell me you want the 5 link installed before I bring the shell up. Which I can do, it's your money, lol.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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lol ... actualy i'm still trying to figure out where it sits ... does that corvair sit instead of the 3 link? i can't find anything on google about this ... all I get is about the corvair car

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Most of the SCCA EP guys including myself run the KC Raceware SE front hubs with stock calipers. Very durable and light. Saves like 7 lb per side. Sevens Only makes the only competing product I'm aware of.
I need to check out this 5 link product.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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any info would be great. thanks ... i wish more of these "little" companies would invest a little more on keeping their websites uptodate as what they offer and not ... sevensonly doesn't even show any products ... unless i'm looking at the wrong site.

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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They used to have the info on the website. I have it printed somewhere. I really think they build everything to order.

KC Raceware built SE front hubs/rotors for me with 4x110 spacing, so as not to obsolete my wheels. I run the large bearing rear axle with 4x110 as well, ligher than the SE rear and we don't need much brake back there anyway. The replacement rotors fron KC are reasonable as well.


edit:I see they have rear's as well now. I wonder how much lighter than stock those are?!? I'll bet Charlie would make them to 4x110 as well.

edit again:I need to learn how to read. Fronts are 5lb less than stock, rears 4lbs less. Now that's to SE fronts/rears. 12a's will be a smaller weight savings.

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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It's owned by Charlie Clark. Him and his son, Chuck, race and build race cars. I purchased my 12A rotor housings from them. They are located in the caves off of 291 highway in Indepence Missouri. Very nice guys to deal with and they know there stuff.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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bump on finding out about the 5 link setup
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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"Very nice guys to deal with and they know there stuff."

HA - sold me a motor that they guaranteed to run. Turned out to be a heap of junk, so destroyed that it wasn't even useable for spare parts. In spite of his stated guarantee, and promising my money back, Chuck decided that he would just screw me. Even though he was in the financial services industry at the time, claimed he couldn't pay me back because he was broke - not a great reference for someone who wants to handle your money. An untrustworthy, unscrupulous cheat who I wouldn't trust with either my money or my racing business. If he wasn't on the other side of the country I would have had him in court by now. Big thumbs down for KC Crapware.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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The Five Link is for 65-69 Corvairs. I used to work for Charlie Clark in the 90's and helped fab allot of the mounts. Really cool stuff.

Keep in mnd that a Corvair has an IRS. From the factory each real wheel is located by three links - a trailing arm, a lower arm and the drive shaft. The Five Link that Charlie Clark designed eliminates the drive shaft as a suspension locator so each wheel is located with two lower, one upper and two trailing links = 5 links. It is a formula car design. It works too, Charlie has 3 Solo II National Championships in his GT3/C Prepared Corvair and it has the first five link.

As for RX7 related information:

Charlie currenly campaigns an E Production first gen. It features a Prather Racing street port 12A, a NASCAR Jerico 4sp, a KC Raceware three link OR any one of several experimental suspension designs that he is working on. He also has an 84 ITS GSLSE that he uses for development.

The Front Hubs that he manufactures and sells are really worth the money and are a necessity for any FB that is using the GSLSE front brakes. The factory Hub/Rotor assy is failure prone - Just ask Charlie's son Chuck who stuffed his FB in a wall at Mid Ohio as a result of an OE hub failure. KC Raceware also manufactures a hat and rotor assy for GSLSE rear brakes.

Charlie has been racing and running Solo's for a long time - he has been to every Solo II National Championship. The best way to learn about what he and his shop can do for you is call him M-F and weekends when he is not racing.

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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ahh ... that makes sense ... I thought corvair was just a name he came up for it, that explains why that car came up when i googled it.

Thanks for all the info about him though.
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