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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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i just picked up an 1985 gsl with 12a in it. i wan to got turbo for drifting. im looking at the 13b-rew good or not? do i have to change tranny driveline motor mounts? what will it take?
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Drifting is tyte! oh its crazy easy dudebro. dont let all these homies fool you with their shinfo (just taking the ****).

Now that I've done that I'll be constructive.

In other words. A ******* lot is what its going to take. Alot of time, and a fair amount of money, but anything is possible. If you are actually serious (there is at least one a day of these kinda threads with absolutely no follow up because a lot of newer members assume its easy). Use the search button at the top of the page. Look at the faq's and the archives, there are many threads on REW and TII swaps.

Welcome to the forum, and the darkside


EDIT: I see where Ken is coming from, and he raises a few good points. I wouldve said the same thing if you hadn't mentioned drifting because basically if you have to ask whats required for this caliber of engine swap(without SPECIFIC questions) then some more research is required.

As well you are talking about putting 300HP into a car that started with 100. Other upgrades are gonna be required.

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Oh my! lol, welcome to the forum my friend and let's hope it's not too late to save your soul...

You'll have to be patient with us, because we are beginning to stereotype all drifters as cheeseheads (strictly based upon our dealings with said cheeseheads).

For everyone else that stops in looking for the chance to beat on a cheesehead, I've taken this from another thread because it seems to fit here as well:

"On the other hand (and this is just my opinion), I think this guy should be treated with a bit more respect. He is new, he has come here seeking our assistance, and he attends actual competitions rather than just being a ******** ricer being "cool" on the streets. He may run with a crowd that has a terrible reputation, but until he has proven himself to be an *** I think we should refrain from treating him like one. (end rant here)"
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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hey thanks for the back up. so i take it that i shouldnt tell people what i intend to do. just need so assictance
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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I like these threads... If you have means to do it you should probably have the means to figure it out. Now if you had all the materials at your shop and you stuck on one bit then I'd could see posting. Too many pipe dream threads on these forums.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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hey thanks for the back up. so i take it that i shouldnt tell people what i intend to do. just need so assictance
They have a bad rep here because of a few who come on either saying the drift on the street (which is bad) or are the typical jdm punk.

Seriously tho, there are some really good threads on the swaps. Read through them a couple times.

If you are serious about a REW, click on Jeezus' link and search for REW and 3 or 4 threads will come up. Not an easy swap at all though



I like these threads... If you have means to do it you should probably have the means to figure it out. Now if you had all the materials at your shop and you stuck on one bit then I'd could see posting. Too many pipe dream threads on these forums.
Exactly my point from first post!
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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so no help from you guys then? pretty Ignorant if you ask me.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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so no help from you guys then? pretty Ignorant if you ask me.
No help with what? Do you have the engine already? Are you stuck on the final details? What are you want know? If it was an easy swap and these engines and fuel management systems were readily available at a decent price I reckon there'd be a lot of REW powered FB's around. Every week someone new comes on with their pipe dream for their car when they've not even looked at the basics like suspension and brakes.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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dont have motor yet got that car for free. so than the rew is not a goog idea than? i would like to go turbo but what would be best. i have been drag racing for 5 years and dont alot about them small motors.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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if you look up...turbo 2...many have just used the turbo2..its easier to swap than the 13brew..and there are threads about this..ppl on here are just mad bc new ppl don't want to do any work and just want answers to questions that have been asked uncountless times...if you search and cant find your answer then post...
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pto74
dont have motor yet got that car for free. so than the rew is not a goog idea than? i would like to go turbo but what would be best. i have been drag racing for 5 years and dont alot about them small motors.

Just hang out for a while and learn. You can't have it all in one day. Sounds like you'd be better off with a V8 swap. Before you ask... search for it.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pto74
so no help from you guys then? pretty Ignorant if you ask me.
Well a little lazy if you ask me.

THIS HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.

as i stated before. try reading those threads of the people that have them. Idno like maybe the one titled: REW into a 1st gen......

You admit to not knowing much about "these small motors" so start learning.

How do you learn? By asking questions but more importantly reading. Learn about the motors first instead of going yea, I wanna stick a 300HP fuel injected engine into a originally carb'd car and wanna know what mods i will need.......


ERG. end rant.

From a simple god damn search (like i suggested)
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&highlight=REW

Go nuts, for a start. Not gonna lie, i didnt bother actually reading through these threads to see if they might help but any reading is good reading and they all have REW in them.

There are far too many modifications needed to list in detail and to be honest not many people have done it.

Or try Turbo 1st gen, TII swap, turbo 12A in your searches. Read, then ask about what you dont understand.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Everyone wants the REW for the status and cool factor.
But in reality,the TII swap is far easier for many reasons.......
Its very similar to the SE engine,which is made for the 1st gen.
The engine and parts are far more common and cheaper.
There is plenty of knowledge on the subject here,for you to learn from.
Its more appropriate for such a light car,you dont need full torque at 2000rpms.
Its metered air EFI,so modding is easier with no retunes needed.
Reaching REW peak HP levels is pretty simple,without the complexity of the twins.
You dont need and REW(or a TII engine for that matter) to go drifting at a beginners level.

The guys arent trying to be jerks(God knows Ive lost the patience to deal with these day to day engine swap threads myself.)....Its just that your question is too broad and generic to answer simply,and EVERYONE wants to swap a turbo engine into a 1st gen.It doesnt help that most people here that want to drift are underaged,underfunded, wanna-be types,which explains why they want to build a drifter out of a car priced in the hundreds,rather than thousands of dollars.Thats not to say that cheap cars dont make good drifters,but most guys who seriously pursue a sport,go for a chassis that is ideal for that sport,so less time is spent on making the car correct and more time is left actually learning to drift correctly.The rest tend to be followers that want to emmulate what they see on Nopi TunerVision, with whatever car they might have on hand.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Step 1: Pull Engine
Step 2: Install REW
Step 3: Gas, Hand Brake, Gas, Drift

Helping people is easy. You just have to give them the answer they want.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pto74
dont have motor yet got that car for free. so than the rew is not a goog idea than? i would like to go turbo but what would be best. i have been drag racing for 5 years and dont alot about them small motors.
I'd suggest doing a lot of reading up on the rotary motor before you go any further. These things are easy to work on and build...with the right knowledge and experience. With one the other will come. These motors can easily be completely destroyed in the hands of the unexperienced. So read up cause you dont seem to know your apex seal from your ******* by your posts to be blunt about it.
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Yeah, you have to help yourself a bit here. Check out the search function and you will pull up years and years of threads on this subject. No reason for somebody to rewrite all of that information if it has already been done and is still here somewhere. The search button is at the top of the page, check it out. Good luck with your project...
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Like others have said all it takes is some time and learning. **** i made the mistake of asking about 12a turbos when i came here a year ago. But i took everyones advice and read read read and then guess what i did some more reading. Know i am a proud owner of a 12a turbo car because i wasnt scared to read and to learn what it takes. I am still reading everyday. i spend atleast an hour a day searching and reading threads from over3-5 years ago to help me out!
Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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