hi everyone, i recently replaced my trailing igniter because it was bad, so i have an extra igniter. i wanted to convert to DLIDFS, so insted of buying a new one or finding a new one i was wonderin if i could hollow it out and fix it. has anyone done it before? can i get the steps please? thanks.

 

http://www.smbaker.com/rail/msd6a.html

 

just pop the steal backing off gut the inside do a search theres a thread on which way to set the jumpers then glue the back on ur set

dilifids aint to hard read up there plenty of info

 

yeah it looks real easy, all i got to do is get another coil nd fix this ignitor, but thanks u two for the ingo anyways. Those pics helped out alot zerano. thanks again.

 

You don't need to gut it. Just file down some quick disconnects and they'll fit in the connector on the dizzy.

 

but if i dont gut it how am i gonna fix it because its a bad ignitor, or does that onnector thing ur talkin about get passed the bad ignitor?because im tryin to convert to dlidfs, so i need this ignitor workin.

 

no i think hes reffering to removing the igniter and running wires straight from the dizzy to your df setup

instead of gutting the igniter

 

o ok i got it, so u dont need to gut it thats what u mean. ok i get it. i already took all the stuff out of mine though, so im gonna try to work with it after i solder it up. thanks everyone.

 

Oh, I see what you were asking. The J-109 ignitors usually either work or they don't work. It sounds like yours was bad.

It's never a good idea to gut a good ignitor. What's more, it's not even necessary to gut one in order to have DLIDFIS. Tht's the point I was alluding to above.

 

yeah! now we understand each other, so now u know what im sayin, jeff do u have good pics of a succesful dlidfs without the msd, u know just regular, i saw ur website on yahoo with the diagram, and i just wanna get some ideas for the wiring, thanks

 

I've never hooked up DLIDFIS in a 1st gen (no pics). DLIDFIS and the MSD are quite different. I'm not sure where you got that they were one in the same.

The wiring is straight forward. I try to spell it out on my geocities page. Since I wasn't making specific diagrams for any one type of vehicle, it requires the reader to comprehend the setup and do it himself.

As for ideas I can give you, if you want to use J-109 ignitors, you can find the small female quickdisconnects at a local car stereo shop. I've test fitted them to the pins on the back of the ignitors before crimping because the rolled-over edges of the quickdisconnects are usually too tight when new. It takes a little spreading. Also, no need for mic cable. Uh, I can't think of anything else.

Have fun.

 

qucik female disconnects, so uve never done it on a first gen huh, ok thats cool, ill figure it out one way or another. thanks for the info anyways, and i plan to have lots of fun

 

I made up the system Jeff20B outlined for my 2nd gen. It worked fine but the small connectors to the dizzy were a source of problems (another place to loosen). I eventually gutted two bad J-109s and secured them to the dizzy with their screws - no problems since. Use a heat gun to remove the back. The inside will have a silicone slime you must dig out then wipe with parts cleaner. Check continuity and solder the proper terminal ends with a short 1/2" piece of wire. I tried grinding the componets from the aluminum cover until I discovered it is in ceramic. Take a hammer and crack the ceramic and remove the circuit board. I filled the entire cavity with RTV for insulation and a glue for the cover. I have put on about 1000 mi since I did this with no adverse effects. PS After I put the two larger spade connectors on top I used a large piece of heat shrink around the wires AND the metal bracket to secure the wires in place and prevent vibration from loosening them.

 

cool, i like the ideas u are all givin me, thanks

 

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wow! thats all i can say, that looks freakin great and u used three ignitors, one on the dizzy and two next to the coils im gueesin?, but u ont need an extra one right, ur just ussin that to get a connection right?