help need to get her running
05-23-05, 12:48 AM
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help need to get her running
ok,the car has ben siting for about 3 years and im trying to get it running and im about to give up i need some help or im going to have to sell it or junk yard it. because i dont have a place to put it unless if its running. ok this is the deal i have spark. the timing is good. the compression is 100 psi in front and 90 in back and yes it is a tester fore a piston engine. i put gas down the carb and go nothing not even a back fire so put a little more in and get a sputter then nothing all dame day long the most i have had it run is about 10 seconds and it keeps getting harder to even get a sputter. so im running out of hops and dreams. so please try to help me
05-23-05, 01:05 AM
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try pouring just a little bit of oil in the carburetor...this will build the compression up just enough to get her started...then make sure to leave it running for a goodly amount of time just to get everything thru the system again...let us know how it goes 
05-23-05, 07:46 AM
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Errr, doesn't it sound more likely that if the car only runs when he puts gas down the carb, that he's not getting any fuel at startup?
Check the fuel filter to ensure that it isn't clogged and pull the main fuel line to the carb to ensure that you're getting decent flow from the fuel pump. If both check out, then turn your attention to the carb. It could be so dried out/covered in varnish that the car will not run without a rebuild.
Just my 0.02.
Check the fuel filter to ensure that it isn't clogged and pull the main fuel line to the carb to ensure that you're getting decent flow from the fuel pump. If both check out, then turn your attention to the carb. It could be so dried out/covered in varnish that the car will not run without a rebuild.
Just my 0.02.
05-23-05, 09:03 AM
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Yeah, I thought rotaries flood easy. Pouring gas down carb might not be the thing to get it started. I usually pump the gas pedal with the switch on (not cranking) a couple of times and then try to start after it has sat awhile not running/driven. This has worked for me every time.
I'd take the plugs out, crank it a while, put them back in, take the fuel pump fuse out, then crank it again. It (should) start up and then die of fuel starvation. THEN plug the fuse back up and try it again.
I'd take the plugs out, crank it a while, put them back in, take the fuel pump fuse out, then crank it again. It (should) start up and then die of fuel starvation. THEN plug the fuse back up and try it again.
05-23-05, 10:37 AM
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This is a step by step guide of how I got MY car running from a VERY similar situation.
1. Did you do a full tune-up? It's been sitting three years, REPLACE EVERYTHING.
Pay special attention to the filters.
2. Check the fuel pump. Verfify volume and pressure using the method described in your shop manual.
3. Cuss some more if that hasn't worked. At that point, it may be time to consider a Carburetor Rebuild, or just buy a freshly rebuilt one off of someone here in the forum.
4. This SHOULD do the trick since you're getting spark and compression. Remember to put a wee bit of oil in the carb after installation.
3B. If you decided to skip this step (you really shouldn't at this point!), then try putting some MMO in the carb, or oil as described before.
5. You can then try what the P.O. did when my car didn't start: Kick in various body parts and cut the OMP lines. That way the next guy who gets it can hate your guts for hurting the car.
6. Take a break, make a Quesadilla. Those cure hunger well.
7. Just try starting it again. You know, supposing you've forgotten that step.
8. Verify again that you're getting spark. THe car should have started after the previous steps, since you're getting GREAT compression.
9. If all of the above steps fail, give me the car. I will give the poor old thing a good home. Of course, since all of the above didn't get it running, it's cursed, so I cannot pay you for it.
The end.
1. Did you do a full tune-up? It's been sitting three years, REPLACE EVERYTHING.
Pay special attention to the filters.
2. Check the fuel pump. Verfify volume and pressure using the method described in your shop manual.
3. Cuss some more if that hasn't worked. At that point, it may be time to consider a Carburetor Rebuild, or just buy a freshly rebuilt one off of someone here in the forum.
4. This SHOULD do the trick since you're getting spark and compression. Remember to put a wee bit of oil in the carb after installation.
3B. If you decided to skip this step (you really shouldn't at this point!), then try putting some MMO in the carb, or oil as described before.
5. You can then try what the P.O. did when my car didn't start: Kick in various body parts and cut the OMP lines. That way the next guy who gets it can hate your guts for hurting the car.
6. Take a break, make a Quesadilla. Those cure hunger well.
7. Just try starting it again. You know, supposing you've forgotten that step.
8. Verify again that you're getting spark. THe car should have started after the previous steps, since you're getting GREAT compression.
9. If all of the above steps fail, give me the car. I will give the poor old thing a good home. Of course, since all of the above didn't get it running, it's cursed, so I cannot pay you for it.
The end.
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05-23-05, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jays83gsl
This is a step by step guide of how I got MY car running from a VERY similar situation.
1. Did you do a full tune-up? It's been sitting three years, REPLACE EVERYTHING.
Pay special attention to the filters.
2. Check the fuel pump. Verfify volume and pressure using the method described in your shop manual.
3. Cuss some more if that hasn't worked. At that point, it may be time to consider a Carburetor Rebuild, or just buy a freshly rebuilt one off of someone here in the forum.
4. This SHOULD do the trick since you're getting spark and compression. Remember to put a wee bit of oil in the carb after installation.
3B. If you decided to skip this step (you really shouldn't at this point!), then try putting some MMO in the carb, or oil as described before.
5. You can then try what the P.O. did when my car didn't start: Kick in various body parts and cut the OMP lines. That way the next guy who gets it can hate your guts for hurting the car.
6. Take a break, make a Quesadilla. Those cure hunger well.
7. Just try starting it again. You know, supposing you've forgotten that step.
8. Verify again that you're getting spark. THe car should have started after the previous steps, since you're getting GREAT compression.
9. If all of the above steps fail, give me the car. I will give the poor old thing a good home. Of course, since all of the above didn't get it running, it's cursed, so I cannot pay you for it.
The end.
1. Did you do a full tune-up? It's been sitting three years, REPLACE EVERYTHING.
Pay special attention to the filters.
2. Check the fuel pump. Verfify volume and pressure using the method described in your shop manual.
3. Cuss some more if that hasn't worked. At that point, it may be time to consider a Carburetor Rebuild, or just buy a freshly rebuilt one off of someone here in the forum.
4. This SHOULD do the trick since you're getting spark and compression. Remember to put a wee bit of oil in the carb after installation.
3B. If you decided to skip this step (you really shouldn't at this point!), then try putting some MMO in the carb, or oil as described before.
5. You can then try what the P.O. did when my car didn't start: Kick in various body parts and cut the OMP lines. That way the next guy who gets it can hate your guts for hurting the car.
6. Take a break, make a Quesadilla. Those cure hunger well.
7. Just try starting it again. You know, supposing you've forgotten that step.
8. Verify again that you're getting spark. THe car should have started after the previous steps, since you're getting GREAT compression.
9. If all of the above steps fail, give me the car. I will give the poor old thing a good home. Of course, since all of the above didn't get it running, it's cursed, so I cannot pay you for it.
The end.
(But i did do a rebuild
)Anyhow, Jay did bring up some good points, since your car has been sitting for 3 years, your gas is probably bad, your oil has probably begun to seperate, and your plugs are probably fouled from pouring gas into the carb. Go ahead and pull those plugs, take notice of the color (grey would be good, black would be bad), then clean them with a wire brush and wipe them off real nice and good-like. Go ahead and put 'em back in the car, then pour just a little bit of oil in the carb, and then crank the engine. That SHOULD do the trick. Let us know if anything else is goin wrong or just doesnt seem right
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05-23-05, 11:11 AM
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Spray some carb cleaner into the the bowl vents of the carb, and let that soak for a few minutes. I have seen a few cases where a carb can be brought back to life with this method, after having sat for a while. This may need repeating several times.
Take the fuel line loose from the carb, and check that fuel is flowing to the carb. If it is, and it smells nasty, either drain the tank, or let the pump run, and catch the fuel in a container and dispose of it. Then add fresh gas, with some "pour thru" type of carb/ fuel system cleaner. Berryman B-12 liquid is what I have always used for this. Once running, let it run for a while, as long as no other problems arise, to allow the cleaner to pass thru the carb.
Take the fuel line loose from the carb, and check that fuel is flowing to the carb. If it is, and it smells nasty, either drain the tank, or let the pump run, and catch the fuel in a container and dispose of it. Then add fresh gas, with some "pour thru" type of carb/ fuel system cleaner. Berryman B-12 liquid is what I have always used for this. Once running, let it run for a while, as long as no other problems arise, to allow the cleaner to pass thru the carb.
05-23-05, 11:22 AM
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Also forgot to mention, if you have the patience, it will be a REALLY good idea to put ALL NEW HOSES.
Radiator, A/C if available, fuel, vacuum. A cracked or old hose can really cause headaches in this situation
Brenden, I know you're just making fun of my old 95/85 compression motor. MEANIE!
Radiator, A/C if available, fuel, vacuum. A cracked or old hose can really cause headaches in this situation
Brenden, I know you're just making fun of my old 95/85 compression motor. MEANIE!
05-23-05, 11:24 AM
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BTW, I think that carb that you sold me is starting to poop out. It's leaking fuel. . . . again. . . . wasn't there some kind of one year warrantee?
Have I really almost been here a year already? And the car's only been running. . . . about a month total? I'm LOVIN IT!
Have I really almost been here a year already? And the car's only been running. . . . about a month total? I'm LOVIN IT!
05-23-05, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jays83gsl
BTW, I think that carb that you sold me is starting to poop out. It's leaking fuel. . . . again. . . . wasn't there some kind of one year warrantee?
Have I really almost been here a year already? And the car's only been running. . . . about a month total? I'm LOVIN IT!
Have I really almost been here a year already? And the car's only been running. . . . about a month total? I'm LOVIN IT!
How bout i give you some taste instead? (makin fun of your rice and blue paint
)Also...how bout you tighten down those bolts on the carb...i bet the fuel would stop leaking then
I can give you another carb if you wanna pay shipping jay...its a 79-80 carb tho...so its got emmisions **** EVERYWHERE
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05-23-05, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bkm_rx7
Hmmm...dont remember that one...
How bout i give you some taste instead? (makin fun of your rice and blue paint )
Also...how bout you tighten down those bolts on the carb...i bet the fuel would stop leaking then
I can give you another carb if you wanna pay shipping jay...its a 79-80 carb tho...so its got emmisions **** EVERYWHERE
How bout i give you some taste instead? (makin fun of your rice and blue paint
)Also...how bout you tighten down those bolts on the carb...i bet the fuel would stop leaking then
I can give you another carb if you wanna pay shipping jay...its a 79-80 carb tho...so its got emmisions **** EVERYWHERE
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