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Old 02-10-09, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jeezy25
nobody ever wants to help with the efi. usually the ones who do dont know what their talkin about and you can tell.
Welcome to the internet/RX-7 club/life. You're lucky when you can tell.

when i start it it will run for 2 seconds and die every time. got fuel pressure, spark, good compression. prolly nothin but with the afm unplugged it will run, but very shitty tho. please help me i love my 7
I assume you've found this in the FAQ sticky at the top of the main 1st gen page http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/gslseidle.html
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Old 02-10-09, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Super82
I don't think anybody is willing to ignore facts on what carb choice is best, but I think the problem is that there is no carb that IS best. To me I think they all offer pros and cons, but there is no way you can say one is best for all situations. Thus refer to my first post, it really depends on what you want, its not like webers are better than sterlings now until forever in every situation. I myself would rather have the sterling on the street and the weber on the track.
Why? Is it because you drive normally on the street and never put the pedal to the metal? I've driven my FB with a weber in it for the past year and loved every day of it. Just trying to see why you might want a sterling on the street more. From what I was told, the power isn't as much, just better start up. Not to say it's slow, cause it isn't, but just not as much. Plus, I think sidedraft's look more pimpin anyways!

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Originally Posted by Sterling
Not that it has any bearing on my carburetor knowledge, but I have had an FB since 2000, and most of the time I've had 2 or more. The most I've had running at one time was 4.
I have a RB Holley 465. I have run this on three occasions for about two months each time, but not because I disliked it. I simply wanted to compare it to my Sterling. I got it second hand, specifically for testing. I did have a Yaw Nikki, but I sold it years ago. I've never had a Weber or equivalent 2 bbl. I didn't get into doing any modifications with the Holley, though at one time I had intended to.
The Holley is terrific from the mid range on up, but was lacking compared to my modded Nikki in the low end. The Sterling and Yaw also breath plenty for the mid & upper range. So up top, the RB 465 Holley meets the 12a's needs the same as the Yaw & the Nikki. ...just as a coffee can in the shape of a venturi with a fuel tube shoved in it's side would, too.

The reason I don't discuss much of my "hands on" comparison with the Holley and the Sterling is because not only have I not done dyno comparisons, I also switched to an aluminum flywheel a few years back and have since gotten rid of all my other FBs. Since I have the light flywheel, my results are not going to reflect the average user's results anyway, and the dyno results are going to be a lot more generous to the low end than they should be of any carb I test. The aluminum flywheel also changes the jet configuration needed for the Sterling at low end.
What comparison I did do between the Sterling and the RB Holley was on the same engine that the Sterling was developed on (with the stock flywheel), but limited to my assometer. I have no dyno results comparing the two.
I did hit the dyno to test jet configurations, but not with my car. The ignition timing was off, and the results for peak HP were not up to what they should be. I won't disclose the peak HP & torque #s from those dyno results simply because not one of you having the combination of what should be a normal, healthy skepticism, that is unfortunately tainted by brand loyalty into a rather unhealthy, nasty skepticism, really wants to see any decent dyno numbers come from me. As a result of this forum being plagued with unsubstantiated ill opinion, if I post sub-par numbers with an excuse before I post decent ones, the ones that'll be brought up most often are the shitty ones.
I do plan on hitting the dyno with one of my own FBs with a stock flywheel and stock ignition. It will involve a 3 hour drive, and a bit of cash. There's not a dyno every 30 miles here in NY. When I go, I'll have to take the Holley, too.
But until I get numbers that I want, I'm not posting ****, and I'll never fudge them (unlike the off-calibrated overinflated bullshit I see in the Dyno Thread here ).
Question is, how far will someone like ME have to go before my dyno data is found credible? Will I have to provide contiguous footage of jetting the Holley and testing it just so someone can't claim I sabotaged it? Or will I just get a free pass of credibility with higher results than expected from this gallery, even if I refuse to disclose any details?
...And speaking of posting overinflated bullshit dyno results without disclosing details of the induction system, I honestly had no idea that Rxvdub is Robert.
I see why Yaw never went on the forum. He had the right idea.
I'll be adding more to my website, and much less here.
im definatly not rob, i could never fill his shoes, but thanks for the compliment! oh and judging by the novels you post you are really trying to push the smog ridden restrictive carb opening nikki.. you get an A for effort but a fail for results! your excuse for why the dyno #'s are below expectations makes me laugh!
back in the day the if you had to the best nikki to mod was the rx2 carb. its large carb top when opened up even more and fully modded netted descent results on the dyno but when dynoed back to back against the Weber IDA , i know you dont wanna hear this but WEBER WON hands down!
its not really a fair comparison as one is a restrictive non performance born factory production carb and the other is born as a race winning performance masterpiece designed by ITALY to look sexy as hell and win races! not to mention sound throaty as hell!! BAM im done here!

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Originally Posted by RXvedub
im definatly not rob, i could never fill his shoes, but thanks for the compliment! oh and judging by the novels you post you are really trying to push the smog ridden restrictive carb opening nikki.. you get an A for effort but a fail for results! your excuse for why the dyno #'s are below expectations makes me laugh!
back in the day the if you had to the best nikki to mod was the rx2 carb. its large carb top when opened up even more and fully modded netted descent results on the dyno but when dynoed back to back against the Weber IDA , i know you dont wanna hear this but WEBER WON hands down!
its not really a fair comparison as one is a restrictive non performance born factory production carb and the other is born as a race winning performance masterpiece designed by ITALY to look sexy as hell and win races! not to mention sound throaty as hell!! BAM im done here!

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Damn straight born to win with a mean *** sound when it opens up!!
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So jeezy25, have you decided?
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Originally Posted by Sterling
The Sterling and Yaw also breath plenty for the mid & upper range. So up top, the RB 465 Holley meets the 12a's needs the same as the Yaw & the Nikki. ...just as a coffee can in the shape of a venturi with a fuel tube shoved in it's side would, too.
thats another issue. You cant buy a new venturies/different sizes unless you take them from junkyards (yeah, walking out of the yard wth the venturies inside your pants). Tuning based on jets only is a half-*** job. You need to change both jets and venturies to find out what is best for your motor.

Originally Posted by Sterling
I see why Yaw never went on the forum. He had the right idea.
I'll be adding more to my website, and much less here.
dont be a *****. Unsatisfied customers and criticism are part of being self-employed. You cant hide from it. Believe me. I have been a commercial banker for over 15 years and we have auditors on my back twice a year. yeah thats internal auditors and the OCC. So get use to it buddy. Another good example is Robert. He went thru **** for a few years as his business partner fucked him big time but he survived.

As a summary, Sterling is a good guy. I like him but I get a kick out of ******* with him every now and then. He is just pissed coz I beat his cheerleaders to the punch. (I wont say names but you know who you are-I bet someone will say: dont be a ***** and say the names ))

Speaking of self-employed, are you a paying vendor?

PS: I see sterling lurking while Im typing bwahhhhhhhhhhhh
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