hey, here's the deal, i'm trying to set my 7 up for drifting, and i wanted to know if i should change the gear ratios' for excelleration, and torque manipulation.

I also wanted to know if any of you know anything about removing some of the teeth on the steering collum to adjust the steering ratio. I saw something about that with a third gen. on a "grip" video , and just wandered if it would help, and if it was applicable on first gens... thanks...

 

I am so sick of this drifting poser crap.

i'll put Ryan, from our local rotary club "Fort Wankel" in his GSL-SE against any wannabe out there.

 

what is your current car, and how is it presently set-up?

 

I think you are lame for getting a tattoo of the internals of your engine on your arm. If you have to try that hard to show you like something you must be a poser

 

much unlike you, i did not come on here to flame.

My point is, people get all hell-bent about set-ups when they should be spending their time driving... practicing, breaking things, improving parts when they do break. Building the perfect drift car and throwing in a noob to drive at the D1 isn't going to do anything. throw a good, seasoned drifter in a well prepared, reliable car, then he has a much better chance.

My tattoo displays my dedication to the rotary. do you have tattoo's?

 

I would take all of the teeth off of the steering column. That way your steering will be MaD QuiCK and hella TiTe.

Also, I hear that JDM rear ends have the best excelleration, and torque manipulation characteristics. Plus JDM is TitE!

Finally, make sure that your muffler bearings are in spec, and packed with synthetic molly lube. A bad bearing will cause a huge crash when drifting.

No one can help you without some specifics about your car. Help will be useless to you if you think there are teeth on your steering column. At least put in the effort to learn something about your car, or ANY car, before asking silly, useless questions.

 

this is what i was getting at.

Ignorance is typical of posers.

 

o.k. as far as this poser crap, i'm not even going to make a reply, and as far as the steering collum question...that is exactly my point, that is why I asked. you can save the sarcasim...i'm sorry if my lack of pride offends you. I am i... I was ignorant to the fact...not stupid. As far as the bulding skill, i've been driving since i was ten, i'm 26 now i'm not saying i'm W.P.Montoya, or Kumatsu for that matter...but a noob. I most certainly am not.

 

now once again, i have an 85" gsl-se, that I am finally getting to work on, it is pretty much completely stock. I was going for a GT setup...but i recently have started to look into the drift scene, so i'm just open for suggestions on where to begin with the car setup. I want to build it dedicated for drifting from the ground up.

 

get better suspension. thats the 1st and IMO most important for drifting.

 

yeah, i was going to start with either brakes, or suspension. what brand...lin. or pro. rate springs. should i adjust the tow, or camber, and if so...wht angle and degree, you see, I know just enough, to know what I dont know Thanks...

 

first off you need to just go and drive the ******! the -SE is a good car to learn to drift in.

If you want to start upgrading, you need to do the basic race car things to the car, (no, not add 500 stickers, and 300 pounds of neon lights and park-bench wings....) rear race car things,

make it as reliable as possible. who was it that won the D1 in the AE a couple years ago, his little 130hp AE-86 N/A 4-banger... vs all the hardcore huger turbo 4's, 6's and rotaries..

If/when you do a rebuild, then you can go for more hp, for now reliabilty, there is alot of info on this site for basic reliabilty mods for FB's, specifically your -SE.

Make the car as light as possible, if you need it to be heavier later for a certain class minimum weight rule, you can PLACE it where-ever you want.

REMOVE EVERYTHING not needed for your level of competition, say you can drive? Fine, prove it, prepare the car to your driving style, no-one elses.

general set-up for that car for DRIFT.. or atleast how I helped set my friend's -SE up for mainly drift, and autoX set-up

Tokico shocks/struts front and rear (illumina adjustibles, or Blues, whatever)
Suspension techniques front sway bar, tighten as much as possible.
Red-dot coil-overs, do a spring about 350-400# up front and 5-600 in the rear. I would recommend you get these from gforceengineerings. this set-up is backward from a true race car, as this will allow your back end to swing around much easier,
Front camber plates, set with your coil-overs to maximum front camber, and negitive tow, align the front tires, drive it, adjust out from there... each adjustment of CASTER will require a realignment.


as far as your steering, if it is tight, don't **** with it,
If anything, swap the heavy FB P/S bracket and pump for the lighter version from an FC. But def keep the power steering for drift. A couple years ago when the AE did win, it was only because the P/S pump failed on the FD.

there are alot more detailed things i can go into.. but that gives you a start.,

Lastly, i urge you to drive up north, like right now, in all this crazy snow and practice here on the ice, where it is somewhat legal to slide around and learn car control at the limit.

I would wager to say if you threw my 20 y/o friend ryan in his GSL-SE against you in yours, completely set-up for drift, he'd school the **** out of you.

I am not starting a fight, by any means, just proving my point. this ice **** rules..

 

yes ice rules, good luck with the rust

sorry you had to get flammed for no reason instead of simply being corrected...

my .02 (almost as un asked for and more called for than what ss124a said- not sure about the name but most likely something to do with a rotary... )

wouldn't know, i'm too busy rebuilding them. oh and i'm only 19, sorry if that offends you as well, maybe i'm a poser too since i've only rebuilt 3 engines but i open my mouth and let people have what i know instead of insulting them at the first chance i get.

if you need help with anything let me know, i've done some work on setting up cars and i'm not a jerkoff if you don't know exactally what your talking about. (as well as not pretending i know everything and admitting i don't quite frequently, as in not afraid to ask for help and don't bash the people that do)

 

wow, lots of flaming. has this turned into hondatech all of the sudden?

 

damn, you guys all need to understand where i come from.

there have been alot of people who have purchased these jdm videos o' drifting, or watched the D1, and are inspired. I am too, and i admit that takes alot of skill. I have been inspired myself.

HEre is my beef, too many people want to just "buy" themselves status, pay for their glory, or championship, not like the good ol' days when it was earned.. there is alot of little civic ricer poser BS happening, admit it. I had to qualify this thread as valid.

I am lucky to have a group of friends in my town, we all go out drifting, driving whatever,we've had our share of trees, and curbs and ending up in the middle of a field there alre also alot of folks in my town driving SR swapped 240's... that will even admit when asked if they want if go out and play that they didn't build their car for that, and they just drive it. WTF..

APEXME,
I don't know what you are trying to say there, but it isn't in order, I wasn't that much of a *****. you should thank me for helping to qualify this thread. now that we have determined that this bloke is legit, we can help. I commend you for your willingness to crack open an engine at your age. Not many of us have.
without continuing the flaming towards me, (take it to PM)
since when have i claimed to know everything? and when have I pretended? I hope this is not in context to me.

The SS124A thing is similar to the SA/FB/FC/FD thing.

SS124A is the prefix to the VIN number to my Rotary.,

From now on, lets continue to keep things on the up and up, We don’t need to be stereotyped with Honda-tech..

 

All this hype about your friend ryan his real name isnt Drift king is it ? How about this poser.

 

Sorry, man, but your post does seem 'poser'-ish.. I am not bashing you or nothin', tho, but it doesn't demonstrate you know what you're talking about. My opinion.
You can just get higher gears if you want better accelleration. Not too much of a downside.
I have no idea what 'torque manipulation' is, though, or why you would need it... Nor do I have any idea on the "steering column teeth removal" deal.
There is a guy on nopistons that is involved with Grip video. ranzo, I think. post of the drift discussion forum there, or driftsociety.com.. There isn't much you can do to quicken the steering, at least easily. There are other (and many) threads regarding FB steering issues...

Good luck, man.

 

I'm with SS. Every goddamn day someone comes on here and says:

"How can I drift better? Someone told me a turbo would help? Can Pep Boys put that on for me? What about windsheild washer lights?"

Get up off your butt and SEARCH. Look at the race car tech forum. In fact, if you look at the bottom of this thread, the site gives you a link to "Drifting 101, the basics and how to get started"

Posting something like:

When I do a clutch kick, there seems to be a delay before the power comes back in. How can I fix this?

is much better than a random general question that implies that the author hasn't even seen a first gen.

Let's keep posters on the up and up too, less we be accused of being nothing but wannabe civic drivers.