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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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Exclamation gsl-se 13b into 83 gsl

okay how, and what would be the cheapest way i'm thinking going carborated would be the cheapest way. so far i've figured out i'd need the front brace from racing beat and then their streetable header .. and then what?? prolly their upperhalf of the intake manifold for a dellorto but then where the hell do i get the dellorto?? maybe just the holley some ideas please!!!!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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You need the engine mount from RB, and the header if thats what you want for exhaust. As for intake, carb would indeed be the cheapest (as far as I know). You could use the Holley kit, any kit with a 13B manifold, or maybe even buy the upper manifold from RB which bolts to the stock GSL-SE lower manifold and then put a carb on that. Those are just my thoughts.

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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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yea the holley kit is $860 a little too rich for my blood thats why i'm trying to see what my alternitives are... because the dellorto upper half mani is only $130, but where in God's name am i going to find a dellorto??? well actually are dellorto and webers the same bolt pattern if so aren't the webers easilier to find??
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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I humbly wonder why people insist on swapping out fuel injection for carburetion. In the 80's virtually every manufacturer in the world switched from carbs to FI, and with good reason; better fuel economy, better fuel management at all altitudes, fewer mechanical parts...
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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There is no cheap way to do this right.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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If you have a 13B engine, you should be able to get the wiring harness and EGI processor for used parts prices. The carb system can set you back a few hundred greenbacks once you get into all the parts costs, intake mods, new gaskets, etc.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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For what its worth, I believe that the Webers will bolt to the Dellorto manifold, as well as a few other carbs.

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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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I did the swap with an 88 13B and kept the FI. I ended up with a new EMS, but all in all, it was about the same price as if I had gone with a carb, and it is very easy to tune in comparison.

If you can find a used carb, that would be the cheapest way. Otherwise, it's just a judgement call.

Oh boy, do I get to help you with this swap? I've been pumped up about doing another 13B to see how it turns out compared to mine. Keep me updated!
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sure if i find a carb i'm gonna order the stuff from racing beat and get the 13b from that guy. but i don't frankly know ish about fuel injection and hate doing wireing. so i'm guessing that the swap with the fuel injection would be a little too much for me, but who knows i'd be able to do the carbed swap but the f.i. thing ...... so if i knew how much money i'd have to spend and what i'd need i'd conceder f.i.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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well if anyone knows of a dellorto or weber for sale let me know so i can confirm my order and all that good stuff

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well i found a manifold and carb and linkage for a good price. so i think i'm gonna put in my orders. now just to secure this engine.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Where did you find them? Are they new? About how much is it going to set you back? Just wondering, I may do this next winter.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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ever feel like alot of people are watching you talk to yourself??? lits and lots of views they keep going up but noone replys...
p.s. i'm crazy!!!

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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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i'm doing an 89 install. I still think its the best way to go, you a reliable, N/A rotary which just happens to be the fastest series of N/A motors in the market to date. As for carb vs. FI, if you can get the parts, wiring harness, and the ECU, its DEFFINATELY the way to go. Starts on the first try, easier to tune, and MUCH better gas milage than a holley setup.

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well i'm going weber unless he has everything with the engine which i doubt very much
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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I put a GSL-SE engine in an 82 once complete with FI. It wasn't that hard but I had a whole car to pull components from.

I don't like carbs, they're a pain. The sync'g of multiples always gave me trouble.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Heres what I would do.

wrap around dcoe manifold, ported, (extrude honed maybe)
TMW 48mm throttle bodys.
large streetport
full streeport exhaust.
haltech, fuel only F9 or something

damn, that intake roar would be sick.
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here hahahahahaaaa

dont buy it from there!!!!!

you will never get it!!!!
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:25 AM
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dont buy it from there!!!!!

you will never get it!!!!
have you ahd past experiance with them cause someone refered them to me and said they kicked arsh. And the dude there said he had a used manifold so he was gonna gimmie a manifold carb linkage and he said everything on the intake side to get it running right for $615 sounds good to me and i'm really impaitant so whenever i order anything i allways use nextday air!
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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are you talking about my 13b lol
I also have the full wiring harness


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Originally posted by Hyper4mance2k
have you ahd past experiance with them cause someone refered them to me and said they kicked arsh. And the dude there said he had a used manifold so he was gonna gimmie a manifold carb linkage and he said everything on the intake side to get it running right for $615 sounds good to me and i'm really impaitant so whenever i order anything i allways use nextday air!
who refered them to you? ask the guys on mazspeed about them!!! what exactly are you getting and for how much, just curious
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