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Ground breaking MODFICATION>>FREE!

Old 02-01-05, 02:19 AM
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Ground breaking MODFICATION>>FREE!

I woke up last night in a cold sweat, I had just thought of the best idea EVER!

Many of Us have pulled out the A/C units on our cars for various reasons...
1) it didn't work
2) it had a leak
3) To save weight
4) motor swap and forgot to but it back....

Whatever your reason for not having A/C I figured out a way to justify it. This will be EXTREMELY BENIFICIAL to you guys and gals with the "bee-hive" oil cooler...
Now you know where I am giong with this.... RIGHT?

You A/c System has a large 24X36 (or so) condensor rad to help in the freon cooling process. It is placed infront of your radiator. WHen you remove the A/C some probably just left this intact... or have it laying around collecting dust..

Well not anymore BABY!! There is a HUGE single core OIL cooler mounted right up front... With a little modification (removing the condesor can itself) a hacksaw and some tubing you have a HUGE front mount oil cooler.....

There you have it... Let the "you are a moron posts begin"....
Old 02-01-05, 02:22 AM
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you are a moron!
Old 02-01-05, 02:25 AM
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A little sooner then I expected but...."mkay" 1 down 297K to go.
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Old 02-01-05, 02:33 AM
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Interesting......any serious thoughts on this???
Old 02-01-05, 02:37 AM
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My friend did it today to his 79 trans am as a Transmission fluid cooler (400 big block), after I called him and made the sugestion. He claims his tranny temp has dropped drasticaly.. (auto tranny built for drag). He is stoked about my idea.......
Old 02-01-05, 02:38 AM
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Well try it i'm just thinking it wouldnt have the same flow charactaristics and might cause loss in oil pressure.
Old 02-01-05, 02:40 AM
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This sounds like a very interesting idea!

I would be a bit worried that the condensor`s passages would be a bit small for the oil to pass through? Obviouslly depends on what the Visocity is of the oil as well.

Hmmm,food for thought

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Old 02-01-05, 02:48 AM
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The pasages were my first concern too but then I thought of how small all the passages in the block are and became less concerned... The oil runs through passages in your block smaller then the OMP lines..........
Old 02-01-05, 04:01 AM
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Some people have said aftermarket oil coolers aren't as good as stock Mazda air-oil coolers. If that's true, then I seriously doubt an AC condensor would be any better. However, using it as an auto tranny fluid cooler sounds reasonable.

I'm sorry you lost sleep over this idea.
Old 02-01-05, 05:55 AM
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the condensor is way too restrctive to work as an engine cooler it won't flow the volume of oil required and will fry your engine due to lack of lube.
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I think this is a brilliant idea none the less!Even if it would only work with the Auto trannies
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Yer a moron.



Fuggin morons. WTH?
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Though it may seem feasable, it is probably not the best idea in the world...

Air Conditioners circulate oil with the refigerent, and when there is a burn out gernerate acid and curclate that through the system untill it accually stops working.

So yes there is a single core rad up there but it is full of crap that is probably best not to have mixed with the engin oil and used in the engin.

The other problem is, like was mentioned earlyer is that the condesnor tube size is quite small...
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I'm just kidding. I love it. I'm super lucky enough to have an older style cooler. But I think what gets me going more than the coolness of the idea is that this is exactly the type of thing I love to see- home-grown ingenuity.

Post this up on my floundering forum, would ya?http://sterlingmetalworks.com/bymcforum/index.php
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Well the thing to do is flow the radiator and flow an oil cooler, right?
Any bad schtuff can be cleaned out, no?
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its easier just to grab a real oil cooler from a FC/pre-82.
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You're old & tired.
C'mon, you remember the days of "Let's try it & see!".
Automatics were just coming out then, right?
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Originally Posted by Sterling
You're old & tired.
C'mon, you remember the days of "Let's try it & see!".
Automatics were just coming out then, right?
Yeah, I cant get more than 4 hours of sleep. I sleep late so I dont wake up in the middle of the night.

with the a/c system, the refrigerant goes to the condenser as high pressurized vapor and in return, comes back as liquid. without an independent pump, its not possible as the condenser sits higher than the engine.
Old 02-01-05, 09:25 AM
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Neat idea, but sounds like another source of oil leaks.
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I don't think he wants to actaully use the compressor as a pump. IIUC, just route the oil through the AC gas cooler.
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Yeah the A/c compressor would be gone.... I am going to take one out and have it flow tested... There is a local Rad shop that will do it for about $15.. I would definitley recommend having the unit flushed first.... We'll see what happens, KEEP THE COMMENTs COMMING.

Edit- Sterling I started a thread on your forum.

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Old 02-01-05, 10:50 AM
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Wow, this the most active I've seen Sterling in around 9 months.
I still don't know how this will work, but hey lets try it and see. I mean lets have you try it and we will see.
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I want your sub box(s)! Sell them to me, one million dollars sound good?

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Sorry about the response to a hijack. Tech, thanks for the comment. I sent you a PM.

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