First of all this "mod" cant apply for everyone since I have my AC and PS removed. I was really bored and found some spare tubing. I had this idea cause i was thinkin how bad my beehive cooler sucked compared to a FMOC. Then i thought why not have the best of both worlds?so i went up stairs into the garage and rigged this up in like 1 minute.



This ^ shows how the air is being supplied to the tube.

the air gets rammed up then blows on the Oil cooler. I havent had a chance to test the functionality of it yet but i dont see why it wouldnt work.

 

You go through that silliness to cool ur oil and yet you are using garbage
fram filter - hmmm...

 

i know i know i usually use K&N but they were out...

 

then get that thing off there - im anxious to know weather the oil is
getting cooler or not though

 

The oil cannot be cooled any further than the coolant temp flowing into the cooler. On most engines, this is about 180 degrees.
I actually tested the temps of the beehive with an infared temp sensor. Car was started after having sat for a couple days, and idled for about 20 minutes, prior to checking.
Temp of oil entering the beehive = 143
Temp of water entering the beehive = 178
Temp of water exiting the beehive = 173
Temp of oil filter = 173
Therefore, Beehive = oil heater, in my opinion......... My beehive got tossed in favor of a FMOC a couple days ago. I figure it will add about 100% more lifespan to the engine.......

 

the engine seemed to run a bit cooler after the first run, the needle was closer to the C than usual but it was a semi cold day i have to do it again tomorrow.

 

when you're driving though air is going through the radiator and cooling the water. and since it's just idling the oil wont heat up too much. When you're actually driving it on the road the water will be cooler and the oil will be hotter, therefore the water cools the oil.

Theoretically anyways. Try testing it out with your infrared temperature sensor so we can know just how much the beehive helps.

And about the mod this thread was started about, its probably not going to do a whole lot because the beehive is not designed for air cooling like a radiator is. Look at how many little fins it takes for an air-oil cooler to cool the oil, just blowing air over your beehive shouldn't have a noticeable effect. You'll be better off directing more air to your radiator. I like the ingenuity though, theres nothing better than a home-brew mod.

 

now just add a fan to the intake and bam.. its better. I am sure you can find a small fan someware in the bone yard.

g/l on your mod

 

The hood was raised the entire time the car was running, and the fan clutch is locked up. Cannot drive that car, as it has a bad rear axle bearing, and no tag. I already tossed the beehive on my car, so it will be a while before I can test the other. Unless I go ahead and toss the beehive on it, before I get it back on the road. I am fixing it up for my sister, drug it outta a field a few months back.
I CAN say, my car takes twice as long to warm up now, than it did last week. It was in the 70's last week, 96 today. Last week, I still had the beehive.

 

I hate to burst your bubble, but the fins on that cooler are more for decoration than actual cooling. If you take a close look at it you'll find they are only about 1/4" deep.

The real *cooling* happens as an exchange of heat between the oil and the coolant. The oil dumps its excess heat into your coolant, and then the coolant goes through the radiator and expels its heat into the air.

If you want to improve your oil cooling, get a better rad, or a better fan and shroud. Or even a better oil cooler.

Jon

 

If your realy want to improve your cooling with a water-oil then put it on a seperate loop from the engine cooling/heating loop. Have a seperate waterpump and radiator for the oil cooling loop.

 

Thats the truth.
The worst part about the beehive, look at where it expells the hot water. Right back into the lower radiator hose, so it can be drawn right back into the engine, WITHOUT going thru the radiator.
In short, the entire thing was designed in a poor manner. Drawing already hot water from the engine, running thru hot oil, and dumping it back into the coolant intake hose of the engine. Regardless of how big a radiator installed, you cannot keep the engine cool, with hot water...........

 

Dude, that thing under your oil filter is a oil to water heat exchanger not an oil to air heat exchanger. Blowing air on it won't do jack.

 

What is a FMOC?

 

Front Mount Oil Cooler.

wow this is an old thread

 

good god, why the religious revival? also, who uses the rigid dryer venting? insane... also, while i'm tearing this apart, if your'e going to vent it TO the cooler, why stop there? go ahead and vent it from behind to an exhaust to receive the full benefit of the "venturi effect"