Getting a GSL-SE
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'84 RX-7 GSL
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Getting a GSL-SE
K, I'm getting a GSL-SE, has idling problems but I hear that GSL-SEs have those probs all the time.
I've had a GSL before, but what do I need to know to have the 13b?
Anything I need to know before getting this car? Like what I should look for that could be a major problem up ahead the road?
Thx.
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I've had a GSL before, but what do I need to know to have the 13b?
Anything I need to know before getting this car? Like what I should look for that could be a major problem up ahead the road?
Thx.
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Everybody seems to give EFI a bad rap around here, but I am a die-hard SE driver and can attest that the SE is one of the best picks for a 1st Gen car. Given their relative rarity, the SE's have the larger 13b engine, are the only 1st Gen cars with EFI systems stock, and also give you a factory LSD, factory 4 wheel VENTED disk brakes, and the better cooling of the FMOC. On top of that, you also got stock 14" wheels with Pirelli P6 tires, and they were highly competitive with the Porsche 944's in those days.
My point is that EFI is going to be more 'techy' in nature, but requires much less tinkering to get it working and to keep it working. The idle issues that most SE's experience is usually due to poor maintenance of the TB systems, and can usually be diagnosed and fixed in about an hour with the proper tools and know-how. The TPS and other systems need to be adjusted just right, but once set are usually good for several years, IMO.
One of the other things to be aware of is that the 'Variable Intake' system on these cars ('6'-ports) usually need a good cleaning and tune-up if they haven't had any service in the recent past. These are the rotary valves that open under exhaust backpressure to allow better airflow and high rpm power without sacrificing low end intake velocity for better torque. The process for cleaning them out and ensuring that they're working is well-documented here.
Other than the standard things like pulling the storage bins and looking for rust, there's not much else to really look for. Let us know if you get it,
My point is that EFI is going to be more 'techy' in nature, but requires much less tinkering to get it working and to keep it working. The idle issues that most SE's experience is usually due to poor maintenance of the TB systems, and can usually be diagnosed and fixed in about an hour with the proper tools and know-how. The TPS and other systems need to be adjusted just right, but once set are usually good for several years, IMO.
One of the other things to be aware of is that the 'Variable Intake' system on these cars ('6'-ports) usually need a good cleaning and tune-up if they haven't had any service in the recent past. These are the rotary valves that open under exhaust backpressure to allow better airflow and high rpm power without sacrificing low end intake velocity for better torque. The process for cleaning them out and ensuring that they're working is well-documented here.
Other than the standard things like pulling the storage bins and looking for rust, there's not much else to really look for. Let us know if you get it,
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check this link out
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/gslseidle.html
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/gslseidle.html
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'84 RX-7 GSL
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Originally Posted by LongDuck
Everybody seems to give EFI a bad rap around here, but I am a die-hard SE driver and can attest that the SE is one of the best picks for a 1st Gen car. Given their relative rarity, the SE's have the larger 13b engine, are the only 1st Gen cars with EFI systems stock, and also give you a factory LSD, factory 4 wheel VENTED disk brakes, and the better cooling of the FMOC. On top of that, you also got stock 14" wheels with Pirelli P6 tires, and they were highly competitive with the Porsche 944's in those days.
My point is that EFI is going to be more 'techy' in nature, but requires much less tinkering to get it working and to keep it working. The idle issues that most SE's experience is usually due to poor maintenance of the TB systems, and can usually be diagnosed and fixed in about an hour with the proper tools and know-how. The TPS and other systems need to be adjusted just right, but once set are usually good for several years, IMO.
One of the other things to be aware of is that the 'Variable Intake' system on these cars ('6'-ports) usually need a good cleaning and tune-up if they haven't had any service in the recent past. These are the rotary valves that open under exhaust backpressure to allow better airflow and high rpm power without sacrificing low end intake velocity for better torque. The process for cleaning them out and ensuring that they're working is well-documented here.
Other than the standard things like pulling the storage bins and looking for rust, there's not much else to really look for. Let us know if you get it,
My point is that EFI is going to be more 'techy' in nature, but requires much less tinkering to get it working and to keep it working. The idle issues that most SE's experience is usually due to poor maintenance of the TB systems, and can usually be diagnosed and fixed in about an hour with the proper tools and know-how. The TPS and other systems need to be adjusted just right, but once set are usually good for several years, IMO.
One of the other things to be aware of is that the 'Variable Intake' system on these cars ('6'-ports) usually need a good cleaning and tune-up if they haven't had any service in the recent past. These are the rotary valves that open under exhaust backpressure to allow better airflow and high rpm power without sacrificing low end intake velocity for better torque. The process for cleaning them out and ensuring that they're working is well-documented here.
Other than the standard things like pulling the storage bins and looking for rust, there's not much else to really look for. Let us know if you get it,
pics, price?
The car costs 2000 dollars, but I have a 84 GSL that I'm trading him (he has a 83 GS with no engine or tranny, and mine work nice) I think he might take off like 500+ off the price with that, is a nice car though.
Anytime baby!
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I agree with Longduck on this one, though I've never owned a carbed car or any other first gen for that matter...actually, the Brown Mound is my first, and only car! It's been my daily driver for 8 years and about 62,000 miles and it runs great. It's got a 164,000 miles on the clock right now, and the compression numbers recently tested at near factory specs for a perfect engine. I expect to get at least 200k on the motor and hopefully onward to 300k.
Right on.
Right on.
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Yeah, like Longduck said, there's nothing you particularly need to look for in the SE that you probably don't already know from your previous first gen experience. Only thing I might add is to go to a Mazda dealer and get a compression check, then bring the numbers in here and get everyong to look at it (don't believe what Mazda says about it) so that you can see the health of the engine. The SE's 13b is one of the most reliable rotary engines ever made, so if it's strong now it will be strong for a long time to come.
just wanna chime in hear real quick this info has been very helpful for me since this is exactly what i'm probably going to be getting very soon. with some extra goodies. i'm friends with OtakuRX who is helping me to get this car since my paseo blew up. he's got me hooked on these cars. i know how forums work so i've been using the search button alot will try to find a place to introduce myself unless someone wants to direct me.
thanks,
dex
thanks,
dex
