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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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fuel starvation is killing me

84 rx7 12a running aeromotive tsunami fuel pump 1/2" aluminum pickup and return lines goin to original sump box in fuel tank. I'm running a fuel injected 12a motor with a roots blower pushing 14psi boost through water to air intercooler on 9.5 compression. I can't get the motor above 6,000 rpm in first or second without fuel drop. Who has mofied thier fuel tank to stop fuel starvation? Is anyone else using a tsunami pump?
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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That's a big no no and a quick way to blow your engine. You either need an SE fuel tank or a surge tank.

This is what I did. Custom surge tank, Carter lift pump and Bosch 500hp main pump.

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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I'm using the first gen 13b fuel injected fuel tank. My fuel pickup and return tubes are located at the exact same place as the fuel injection tubes were. I was using a surge tank setup with a Holley blue fuel pump at 14psi feeding it and was suffering from fuel presure loss. I removed the surge tank setup and ran the fuel pump off of the 1/2" lines I just installed. Even on a completely fuel tank of fuel I have issues, so I think the tsunami pump also is inadequete. the fuel starvation can get real bad below 3/4 tank. I'm really interested to know if someone has installed an aftermarket sump setup on this car. How much horse power are you pushing?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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Well in that case I'd be looking at the components upstream from the tank. The Tsunami pump should be adequate unless it's faulty or damaged. What regulator are you running?
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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those king springs whats the drop like?1"or more.
i think inch is 25mm
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blwfly
those king springs whats the drop like?1"or more.
i think inch is 25mm
They do low which is about 1" and super low which is 2". I have lows on the front and super lows on the back. That makes the back sit about 5mm lower then the front which is ideal.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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aeromotive return regulator a1000-6 .aeromotive fuel filter 2000lb per hour #12301 8 an feed line to pump, 6an to fuel rail. 4 750cc injectors.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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Where are the different components mounted? How far is the Holley from the fuel tank and what are the distances between the Holley, the surge tank and the FI pump?

I had a Holley blue mounted where 13Beef has his Carter and with a 7/16" supply line from the tank, the Holley wouldn't even prime itself. If I stuck an 8" long 3/8" hose on the suction side and dropped that in a gas can, it would draw and pump. I'm wondering that if between the 1/2" lines and FI pump down stream, the Holley may be cavitating.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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the holley surge tank setup is now out of the car. I am now running the aeromotive setup straight from the tank.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by THE MAINTENANCE SHOPPE
aeromotive return regulator a1000-6 .aeromotive fuel filter 2000lb per hour #12301 8 an feed line to pump, 6an to fuel rail. 4 750cc injectors.
Is the reg. plumbed in after the rail? Not saying you're stupid just making sure.
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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Yes it is on the return side of the fuel rail..... and thanks for not calling me stupid.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Yes it is on the return side of the fuel rail..... and thanks for not calling me stupid.
It's a very strange problem indeed then. Maybe there's a restriction in one of the lines?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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I would start with cleaning/changing the fuel filters. Just for clarification, you replaced the pickup/return tubes in the tank with 1/2", or are the stock ones still in place?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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The fuel pickup and returns inside of the tank are 1/2" aluminum tubing.
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