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Old 03-08-04, 03:36 PM
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First Gen Flames?

my buddy just recently purchased a 2004 rx8
he learnt this little trick where he can shoot flames out his exhaust...
i was just wonderin if you can do that with a first gen
and if not what would i need to do it or is it even possible at all?
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Remove all three of your cats and you should be able to
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How does he do it? Seems it would be easier to shoot flames in a carbed car vs. FI. (Assuming they are NA.) So yea, what gummie said, get those cats out of the way and you should be able to no problem.
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as far as techniques go...try getting in 3rd gear, punch it up to 6,000rpm and release the gas pedal.

as you're coasting(in-gear from 6,000) the car should begin the backfire. normally the first backfire(at 5k or so) produces the largest flames.

at least that's how it works with mine
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I wouldnt have thought rx8's could do flames with the design of the renesis, cause it takes un-used fuel into the next cycle not dumping it out the exhaust
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i've seen them myself.

with the simple addition of the Borla exhaust the flames are pretty good
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ya he runs it really hard for a bit (rx8) then revs it really hard to about 7 grand then lets of the gas right away and it shoots about a 2 foot flame....so nice:d
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ya he runs it really hard for a bit (rx8) then revs it really hard to about 7 grand then lets of the gas right away and it shoots about a 2 foot flame....so nice:d
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umm, somethings wrong with my car then, i have no cats, and it ain't spitting no flames.
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Gotta have the air pump and a leaky anti-afterburn valve system.

Beware: shotgun noises and big flames attrack the wrong kind of attention.
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what do u mean by the wrong kind of attention?
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mine shoots flames just idling sometimes. i love it i cant hear it either. doesnt sound like a backfire; just a little poof! :P: hahaha the WIN
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I've seen old American Cars that inject fuel into the tail pipe and ignite it with some kind of spark system.

I remember seeing a module that did this and all you had to do was provide an old coil to make it work. I'll try and look it up for ya.
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I just rev it to about 7k and let off in 2nd or 3rd gear and mine shoots out pretty big flames.Big enough to where I can hear and see them light up the street behind me.I always do it in front of the honda ricers that won't race but have the 200mph bodykit and wing!
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Also helps if your car runs a bit rich
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A couple of things...

If the decelleration dashpot is removed this will help tremendously, and if your idle is set rich this will help, and if you happen to be running a bit lean high up it will help, too.
Mechanical secondaries will definitely do this very easily.

Reving high (especially @ lean) heats up the exhaust good n' hot.
Dropping of the pedal slams shut the throttle valves. but there is still enourmous vacuum acting on the carb for a second. This draws practically raw fuel right into the manifold with no additional air.
When this rich vapor is exposed to the combination of an extremely hot exhaust and the oxygen waiting at the end of the tunnel,
>BAM!<

That's my understanding of it, anyway.
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THis makes me laugh to think about considering how much fuel costs right now. But I remember seeing a GSL-SE with headers, no cat and mazdatrix exhuast make small flashes when letting off the gas.

I do know if I crank up the fuel mix on my turbo setup, it makes 2ft flames in deceration according to my friend who was following me on the road. This is with a turbo and free flow exhuast.
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ya.. im thinkin that when i get my custom headers and take out the cats it shou8ld shoot flames... but as for now i just get little backfires but no flames... o well guess i have to try it when the exhaust is done
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I just found out this evening that my car shoots constant flames at idle whilst warming up; a nice blue color right under the passenger seat . Rev it up and let it fall and you get a nice orange flame and of course the obligatory explosions... then more constant blue fire.

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My car doesnt shoot flames at all, honestly












































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flames are good! tailgaters love it!
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haha sick
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look at that pic, how much of the flame you can see in the middle of the day, imagine that **** at night
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ya flames are phat i wish i could get em cuz i want em sooo bbadd lmao


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