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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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Few questions for other Aussies

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As you know we didn't get the gsl-se (Why mazda?). I have a little more money and am now ready to buy a 2nd car (My 1st rx-7 isn't in the best nic) and I would love to get another rx-7 but found the 12a a little gutless, the main fault in a great car. I would love to get one with a carbie 13b. I was wondering how much have other guys in Australia payed to do a 13b swap (Wouldn't have time to do it myself between uni and rowing so it would have to be done by a mechanic). Also how much is a good price on a s2 or 3 already fitted with one (car in good condition), I went to look at a s2 13b but the owner was asking 8 grand NN which seemed too much.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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i suggest you go to either the Dalton or Dyson websites for detailed price information

A rebuilt and installed ported 13bt will cost you arond $6,000, a series 4 stock rebuilt13b around $4500 as a rough indication. You could get it cheaper if you shop around.

$8000 could be a reasonable price for a car in good condtion, the transplant is not cheap and most people upgrade otherthings such as suspension at the same time. There goes another $1000. As a start look at sites such as Selectmazda as they usually have some on offer. Even try www. carpoint.com.au as it has a range of dealer offered Gen1s listed.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 02:04 AM
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really, I have been told that 8 grand is way too much. The other option I was thinking of was to buy an imaculate one with a 12a and put on a good exaust, carbie and street port it. How much would I expect to pay for those mods?
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 04:30 AM
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If you find a car with the conversion already done, you'll save a lot of money. I got my S2 with 13BT for $7k, engineered in reasonable condition body and interior wise. The money you save on the conversion can be put into fixing up the little things (there are always little things).
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:23 AM
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to fit a carbed 13b to a 1st gen.... need engine, appropriate sump and engine plate/mount (to move mount point 2cm forwards). Use the original clutch and flywheel plus dizzy.
You can get an engine for between $500 and $3,000. Say another $200 for the 2 parts - then its all time and labour. If you could do it yourself then you could get out of it for $800.
That said.... a few weeks back there was a (really really ) rough s1 import selling with a 13b six port for about $750....

As said, a better choice might be to check www.rotorworx.com.au , dysons and daltons and see their drive in drive out prices for 12a (wouldn't bother) or 13bT (woo-hoo) conversions.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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i want www.rotorworx.com.au's 12 sec 13bt package now i just gota get $7000

and browney jump onto www.ausrotary.com and ask around here.

and i hope i dont get banner for refering u to another forum
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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yo dude!

adelaide boy here too, just pulled my 13b decomp out of my s3 for a new engine, its for sale now!

putting 13b into first gen is a piece of ****, just need to swap the front covers from the 12a, get a 13b sump and modify ur exhaust if u dont wanna put a new one on, check out sarotors.org and go to teh forums, everybodys willing to help out with stuff if needed

doing it urself will save big $, but workshops can do it for ya for a bit under a grand, depending on who u go too
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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The fundamental question is whether you want someone's old 13b or getting a rebuild with a warranty.

The cost problem with porting is its cheap if the engine is already stripped down, its only worthwhile if you are having a rebuild in the first place.

My s3 12a has bolt on modifications, being a good exhaust system, modified nikki carb and K&N filter with the air pump deleted. It produces about 125rwhp being about 5% more than a 13B while still returning 8-9l per 100km. On a tight budget you could get done for well under $1000.

When the engine is due for a rebuild then I will get it ported with emphasis on bottom end torque, that should add another 40bhp.

I visit SA every 2-3 weeks from Canberra. From Pinnaro to Adelade is about 250km. An extra 40hp will save me 12-15 seconds in 2 1/4 hours driving. At a $120 an hour professional fee thats saving me 50 cents in time!
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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Had a look at the Rotorworx 13bt package for $6800, it sounds a good deal if you are going to keep the car several years. Buying a good s3 12a and doing a transplant will put you up around the $13,000 budget but at least you know what you are getting. Their package would certainly give you a reliable vehicle.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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Just buy my car
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