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Old 09-17-04, 09:26 AM
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Engine Hoist/stands?

Since I'm taking my 12A out (I'm making a journal/diary of it, might take pictures, might not.), I need to either buy or rent an engine hoist. (Most likely buy, because I don't feel like having to cut a days work short just so I can drive the hoist back.)

Will this engine hoist work for a 12A? http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...categoryId=421
The reason I'm asking is because I don't know if rotary engines are different and need some kind of special adapter or not.

Also, I have an engine stand, but I saw a rotary engine adapter somewhere for it. Will this adapter be needed? Or is it more of a nicety?

Thank you in advance.
Old 09-17-04, 09:32 AM
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im pretty sure u dont need a special hoist but for the stand u do need an adapter which if u have the skills u can make urself
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The hoist will work fine, I used one just like it to pull my 12A & auto 4spd tranny. Just use the provided hooks on top of the 12A when you lift it out. It is pretty easy to get it out because it is so small.

As far as the engine stand, I have a regular old engine stand that I bought at Advance Auto Parts and it works pretty well. I did have to drill a couple of new holes so that the engine would mount up right, but no big deal. The stock holes in the mounting plate just didn't quite match up. If you can pull an engine, you'll have no trouble getting your engine stand to work. Good luck!
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Ahhh, thank you much guys.

Also, to keep the number of threads to a minimum, I'll just ask my other question: I pulled off the engine undercover last night, but I had some troubles with it. The front-right and front-left outer bolts wouldn't turn, because it would just bend the undercover or the plastic that it was attached to. So, I ended up just turning the bolts until the metal/plastic it was holding onto came off (underneatht he bolt head).

Will this be a problem in the future? I would assume not. I figured I would just be able to bend the undercover back and set it in place. Of course, I'm used to taking off undercovers which also function as skid plates, so I don't know if the undercover will be affected by being bent or not. I would think it still serves it purpose, keeping things from hitting the fan belt and stuff like that.
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Everybody says you need a special adaptor or 'head unit' to fit a rotary to a regular old engine stand. It's not true. Save your money and use the arms it came with.



Did you notice the folding engine crane in the background. These two tools are nice to have and don't require very much garage space.
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So you just turned the stand-head sideways and moved all the arms to the left? How does that keep it from turning, though?
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The engine stand has a locking pin that holds the adapter plate in place. So you can rotate the engine however you want, stick the pin in and it will stay like that. They do this because it would be nearly impossible to mount the engine so that its center of gravity didn't try to pull it over.....

If you look at Jeff's pic above you can see the pin sticking out of the top of his stand. Also, the black handle is so you can rotate the engine to your liking, before you put the pin in.

Just a word of advice, don't ever pull the pin and think you can rotate the engine by yourself. It's too heavy. I learned the hard way. Braced myself and grabbed onto the lever, pulled the pin.... WHAM! Engine rotated itself all the way around...

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ooooh ok, I see now. I've seen my brother use our engine stand for a 406 small block, and I just forgot about it. Thank you much guys, this helps me a great deal
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There are variations you can try. For instance, my engine is a little front-heavy due to the length of the arms. It's only noticeable when the alternator, waterpump etc are installed though. It's not worth the effort of drilling new holes in the arms just to center the intermediate plate at the middle of the vertical part of the stand.

The bolts I used are 10mm x 1.25 for the two upper holes and 12mm x 1.5 (or was it 1.75?) for the two bottom holes. I forgot the length.
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If you strip the engine down good and pull the trans, Then you can pull it by hand. They weigh in at about 100 - 125ish pounds.

A cheap engine lift is only about 100. Advance auto parts sales them, I think Tractor supply also has them.
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I live in Lewisville, but have a Clemmons mailing address, so I'm on the edge of Clemmons. (~10 miles from Winston-Salem.)

I want to have a folding engine hoist, because my parents keep bitching about how little room we have in our garage
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