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Old 10-15-04, 07:13 AM
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Question dilema, please advise!

I have been doing alot of searches, and sending PM's about premixing.
I want to do it, because it seems safer, and healthier for the engine.
BUT..................................
My car goes into the garage in november, and comes out in march/april.
It gets started weekly, but not moved.
Now, I have read that 2-stroke oil seperates from gas, if left sitting for too long. I am figuring that would happen over the winter.

Except.......................................
My car is FI (gsl-se) which means, when the fuel pump runs, it recirculates fuel back to the tank, which MAY mix it enough.

I can see two options:

1) in the summertime, when it is my daily driver, I can unhook the linkage from my throttle body to my OMP. From what I can tell, the omp will still inject a little oil, but very little. I can then premix to my hearts content and keep most of the nasties out of the combustion chamber.
Then, when I store it, I can hook the linkage back up, and cut the premix back.

OR

2) I can remove the OMP all together, and run my fuel pump with the engine shut off for a while to mix the fuel/oil before I start it in the wintertime. I figure a half hour or so, if I don't fill it up all the way.

What do you guys think?
Old 10-15-04, 07:27 AM
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back in the days, when I was in the Navy, i didnt do anything especial prior to storing the car. just change oil and when it comes to starting, after 6mos or so of west pac, pour some oil thru the carb, handcrank the motor to lubricate the seals and start. since ur is a carb, then remove the trailing plugs and squirt some oil thru the spark plug holes.

Some say, use ATF but a regular oil is fine.

Im in SOCAL so I dont know how winter is like.
Old 10-15-04, 07:33 AM
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Someone said that when they store their car for like 4 months or so that they pour some MMO (marvel mystery oil) into the housings. This way, everything like apex seals and whatnot are sitting in oil and all is good. I am sure that when you do start it, it will smoke like a **** and run rough for a bit. Not sure what all is involved when they store it. I am sure they dont start it often. I believe that they were saying that they drained the tank, put something in tank, and did a few more things. Cant remember it all. Hope that helps some.
Old 10-15-04, 11:34 AM
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MMO in the engine AND in the gas tank. You should be fine from what I hear. Awesome stuff.
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I think your missing his question he want to know if the mix fuel will seperate over winter and if by running the fuel pump it will remix.
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When I put my car in storage last winter for 3 months, I had a half tank of premix left. I took 'er out and did some 'drifts' around corners to mix everything up, and it seemed to run just fine.
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Personally, I think your making more worry than needed. If you're simply starting the engine weekly and idling in the garage, I wouldn't bother. It needs to taken out and run.

Idling in the garage will carbon the engine up faster. I would add fuel stabilizer to the gas, run the engine long enough to get the stabilizer through the entire fuel system, pull the lower plugs and squirt some MMO in,reinstall the plugs, turn the engine over by hand and let it sit until spring. (keep the tank at least half full through storage)

Come spring, turn the engine over by hand again to recoat the the housings , start it up with the old plugs and burn off the extra MMO, then install new plugs and head for the gas station for fresh gas.
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Old 10-16-04, 07:46 PM
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Yea, I have just got this car a couple of months ago form my mother in law. They started it weekly in the winter, and took very good care of it. I just want to take care of this car properly. Everything on this car is in awesome condition, except for the paint, which is faded.
I just want to get all my ducks in a row, and keep the car in as good a shape as when it rolled out of the factory.
But don't get me wrong, I am getting a better exhaust, and probably going to stop injecting motor oil into the engine. I just want to do it right!
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you coulb get one of these. theyre cool
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/oil_in...p_adaptors.htm
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Nope, it still uses the OMP to inject the oil. I would rather not rely on the pump to protect the engine.
You might say, " but you rely on your water/oil pumps"; and the answer is yes, I do......But, I have guages for those. I will know when one of those fails, and have a good chance to save the engine.
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if you rebuid/gasket the OMP, IMO i think it would be reliable.
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