Ok that is a whole lot of things to try! We do have the haynes manual and that has helped show us a lot. Problem is I am trying to trouble shoot this without actually being able to do much on the car since my hubby thinks I am incapable and he doesn't have much interest in trying things himself. He wants to give up on the car, but I don't like that 'cuz if he doesn't have a car then he takes my nice new car and I have none. So, I will get him to test as much of that as I can. Thanks for being so patient with everyone giving me more and more info. I would be lost without all of your input! Hoepfully we can get this figured out soon. Mahalo! Kelley