CP RACING 1st gen 79-85 Big Brake kit, now available.
06-14-04, 06:25 PM
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CP RACING 1st gen 79-85 Big Brake kit, now available.
CP RACING & DESIGNS (www.cpracing.ca) 79-85 1ST GEN rx7, bolt on big brake kit, intended for use with factory 2nd generation 88 turbo II 10.9 rotors and 4 piston callipers to be used with factory 1st generation front suspension. NO SUSPENSION REMOVAL REQUIRED! Allows for bolt pattern change NO MORE 4x110mm! Can be run in 5x114.3 setup or use the shared GSL-SE and base 2nd generation Rx7 4x114.3 bolt pattern configurations. Uses factory 1st generation Rx7 master cylinder and brake lines, no additional proportioning valve needed. Dramatically improved braking
and the elimination of brake fade. Quick and easy installation, no fabrication/welding or chassis modifications required. Uses all factory replacement parts, installation guide provide. And as always we pay for the ground shipping!!! Visit our site for more information. The forum will not allow us to post pictures so please view the site or email for pictures of the kit
Because we cannot constantly monitor the forum, we ask you direct all questions to sales@cpracing.ca as we will not be replying here. Thank you for your cooperation,
Price: $375.00- to your door.
Chris
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and the elimination of brake fade. Quick and easy installation, no fabrication/welding or chassis modifications required. Uses all factory replacement parts, installation guide provide. And as always we pay for the ground shipping!!! Visit our site for more information. The forum will not allow us to post pictures so please view the site or email for pictures of the kit
Because we cannot constantly monitor the forum, we ask you direct all questions to sales@cpracing.ca as we will not be replying here. Thank you for your cooperation,
Price: $375.00- to your door.
Chris
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06-14-04, 10:28 PM
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I just copied and pasted this from the ebay auction.
ebay auction
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* Note 78-83 cars need to use 84-85 GSL or GSL-SE lower front strut assemblies*
What you need to supply-
T2 brake rotors and callipers, 5 bolt(T2) or 4 bolt(base model) hub assemblies (including wheel bearings/seals/races), brake pads.
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So, if I need to supply all those parts what exactly am I getting in the auction for $350.00? Instructions and two brake lines?
Does look kinda outaplace, those big ol brakes on the little car. Does look nice. Too bad I just got a great set of wheels in 110mm pattern.
ebay auction
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* Note 78-83 cars need to use 84-85 GSL or GSL-SE lower front strut assemblies*
What you need to supply-
T2 brake rotors and callipers, 5 bolt(T2) or 4 bolt(base model) hub assemblies (including wheel bearings/seals/races), brake pads.
*****
So, if I need to supply all those parts what exactly am I getting in the auction for $350.00? Instructions and two brake lines?
Does look kinda outaplace, those big ol brakes on the little car. Does look nice. Too bad I just got a great set of wheels in 110mm pattern.
06-14-04, 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by seanrot
So, if I need to supply all those parts what exactly am I getting in the auction for $350.00? Instructions and two brake lines?
So, if I need to supply all those parts what exactly am I getting in the auction for $350.00? Instructions and two brake lines?
06-14-04, 11:18 PM
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Custom fabbed bracketry to attach the brake caliper to the strut without any fabrication, welding, or grinding on the part of the installer. That also happens to be strong enough to stand up to the forces generated by the caliper.
Look around at other big brake kits for the FB or figure out how you'd have to have the bracket shaped. It's not so simple as you might think, and the cheapest other setup I've seen is around a grand.
... I'm doing an FC front subframe swap tho, so... I just need bigger brakes in back to match. Or at least 5x4.5" hubs.
Look around at other big brake kits for the FB or figure out how you'd have to have the bracket shaped. It's not so simple as you might think, and the cheapest other setup I've seen is around a grand.
... I'm doing an FC front subframe swap tho, so... I just need bigger brakes in back to match. Or at least 5x4.5" hubs.
06-15-04, 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Kenku
Custom fabbed bracketry to attach the brake caliper to the strut without any fabrication, welding, or grinding on the part of the installer. That also happens to be strong enough to stand up to the forces generated by the caliper.
Look around at other big brake kits for the FB or figure out how you'd have to have the bracket shaped. It's not so simple as you might think, and the cheapest other setup I've seen is around a grand.
Custom fabbed bracketry to attach the brake caliper to the strut without any fabrication, welding, or grinding on the part of the installer. That also happens to be strong enough to stand up to the forces generated by the caliper.
Look around at other big brake kits for the FB or figure out how you'd have to have the bracket shaped. It's not so simple as you might think, and the cheapest other setup I've seen is around a grand.
Like this
So the total is 350.00 for Instruction, 2 brake line, and two brackets. Still seems way steep too me.
40.00 for the brake lines
310.00 for two bracets?
instructions = priceless!!!!
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06-15-04, 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by seanrot
So, your saying the aluminum piece I have seen that changes from the original caliper mounting holes to the new caliper holes.
Like this
So, your saying the aluminum piece I have seen that changes from the original caliper mounting holes to the new caliper holes.
Like this
06-15-04, 01:03 AM
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guru racing in Australia was supposed to be designing a similar kit. I wonder how much theirs will be and what it will include? Hopefully they will come to sevenstock again this year.
06-15-04, 01:14 AM
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Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
06-15-04, 01:16 AM
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PaulAber has the SevensOnly HUGE front brake kit, with the stock SE rear's and a porportioning valve, and it works GREAT, It has 11 3/4" rotors, so unless he goes up to 13" rotors, I see no need to upgrade the rears
Originally posted by Dom
So, ok that's very nice and all, but it's only half the car!
What about the rears?
So, ok that's very nice and all, but it's only half the car!
What about the rears?
06-15-04, 01:30 AM
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Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices, go make it yourself if you think its too expensive. It's an outdated car with only a handful of available parts, so of course its gonna be expensive. I haven't looked at the site yet, does it say what size wheels must be run in order for this to fit?
06-15-04, 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Max7
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
I havn't said anything bad about them or ripped there stuff. Cause I dont know what there stuff is. I'm actually having to assume what im getting. Just like you are in the next paragraph.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
I havn't said anything bad about them or ripped there stuff. Cause I dont know what there stuff is. I'm actually having to assume what im getting. Just like you are in the next paragraph.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Originally posted by 82transam
Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices, go make it yourself if you think its too expensive. It's an outdated car with only a handful of available parts, so of course its gonna be expensive. I haven't looked at the site yet, does it say what size wheels must be run in order for this to fit?
Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices, go make it yourself if you think its too expensive. It's an outdated car with only a handful of available parts, so of course its gonna be expensive. I haven't looked at the site yet, does it say what size wheels must be run in order for this to fit?
I'm not ragging them but for $350.00 ebay $375.00 from the web site. I want to know what Im getting , dont you? Not just the finished picture.
Yeah, I gooffed on the brake lines, guess it has be to add that the parts you need to supply list.
06-15-04, 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Max7
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
06-15-04, 08:57 AM
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Just to throw this out there and not to sound pessimistic (although it prob does)- my 85GSL has the stock 4 way discs. With fresh pads and properly machined rotors I have no problems stopping my car on a dime, nor have I experienced any fade under spirited driving.
My first rx-7 had the drum rears and was still fairly strong in the braking department.
What gains in stopping power will be had by upgrading to this set-up? Are there hard-core numbers showing stopping distances vs. stock?
It just says "Dramatically improved braking, and non-existent brake fade. " I mean- that's a lot of dough to shell out just to have the front brakes upgraded and bolt pattern changed. Hell- for that money and the price you spend to upgrade the rear and buy new rims you could get cross drilled rotors, Hawk pads, metal lines and possibly Panasports for your 1st gen (all the way around).
My first rx-7 had the drum rears and was still fairly strong in the braking department.
What gains in stopping power will be had by upgrading to this set-up? Are there hard-core numbers showing stopping distances vs. stock?
It just says "Dramatically improved braking, and non-existent brake fade. " I mean- that's a lot of dough to shell out just to have the front brakes upgraded and bolt pattern changed. Hell- for that money and the price you spend to upgrade the rear and buy new rims you could get cross drilled rotors, Hawk pads, metal lines and possibly Panasports for your 1st gen (all the way around).
06-15-04, 12:54 PM
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Why does it have to be a GSL? 84-85 I can understand, but I didn't realize that any 12a cars from those years had different spindles.
06-15-04, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Max7
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.
You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.
Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.
Ok, rant over. you may resume your life
Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P
Well said! This is a good upgrade for Road Racing and or canyon runs. My car stops on a dime but when going down hill on a canyon with twisties, you'll soon realize how mediocre your brakes really are.
06-15-04, 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by 82transam
Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices. . .
Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices. . .
The poster that pointed out that they didn't state what came with the brake kit is correct. It appears underhanded when a seller does that.
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06-15-04, 07:58 PM
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I hate to talk ****, and I do appreciate their effort to make parts for our cars, but cp's products aren't impressive for the price. I understand the price of research, fabrication, and the pride of someones work but the quality is not there.
They don't even show what you are purchesing with this product, and pictures of other products are very limited.
I was rather unimpressed with the cars they took to RR.
I probably wouldn't rag on them if they hadn't ignored several e-mails.
I hope they stay around, research, and improve.
They don't even show what you are purchesing with this product, and pictures of other products are very limited.
I was rather unimpressed with the cars they took to RR.
I probably wouldn't rag on them if they hadn't ignored several e-mails.
I hope they stay around, research, and improve.
06-15-04, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by web777
Well said! This is a good upgrade for Road Racing and or canyon runs. My car stops on a dime but when going down hill on a canyon with twisties, you'll soon realize how mediocre your brakes really are.
Well said! This is a good upgrade for Road Racing and or canyon runs. My car stops on a dime but when going down hill on a canyon with twisties, you'll soon realize how mediocre your brakes really are.
As for not listing what the kit includes, I agree with you guys fully, a detailed list, down to the last nut and bolt should be provided (are you reading this CP?) Other than that I like CP.
06-15-04, 08:39 PM
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Considering what the U.S. dollar is worth in Can. $350. kinda hurts, I ****** understand Dicking around with a bench grinder, drill press, and die grinder for hours on end. I was going to build my own but I might as well save some time an buy It hopefully theyll come off that price $50 to bucks make it a little more affordable
1st gen brakes are good for about 3 good laps at any decient road coarse ask any SRX7 Racer
1st gen brakes are good for about 3 good laps at any decient road coarse ask any SRX7 Racer