CP RACING 1st gen 79-85 Big Brake kit, now available.
 

CP RACING & DESIGNS (www.cpracing.ca) 79-85 1ST GEN rx7, bolt on big brake kit, intended for use with factory 2nd generation 88 turbo II 10.9 rotors and 4 piston callipers to be used with factory 1st generation front suspension. NO SUSPENSION REMOVAL REQUIRED! Allows for bolt pattern change NO MORE 4x110mm! Can be run in 5x114.3 setup or use the shared GSL-SE and base 2nd generation Rx7 4x114.3 bolt pattern configurations. Uses factory 1st generation Rx7 master cylinder and brake lines, no additional proportioning valve needed. Dramatically improved braking
and the elimination of brake fade. Quick and easy installation, no fabrication/welding or chassis modifications required. Uses all factory replacement parts, installation guide provide. And as always we pay for the ground shipping!!! Visit our site for more information. The forum will not allow us to post pictures so please view the site or email for pictures of the kit

Because we cannot constantly monitor the forum, we ask you direct all questions to sales@cpracing.ca as we will not be replying here. Thank you for your cooperation,
Price: $375.00- to your door.

Chris
CP Racing & Designs

Hmmm... man, just wish there were an equivalent for the rears. Guess I'll just have to tinker...

I just copied and pasted this from the ebay auction.

ebay auction

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* Note 78-83 cars need to use 84-85 GSL or GSL-SE lower front strut assemblies*

What you need to supply-

T2 brake rotors and callipers, 5 bolt(T2) or 4 bolt(base model) hub assemblies (including wheel bearings/seals/races), brake pads.

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So, if I need to supply all those parts what exactly am I getting in the auction for $350.00? Instructions and two brake lines?



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Does look kinda outaplace, those big ol brakes on the little car. Does look nice. Too bad I just got a great set of wheels in 110mm pattern.

I was wondering the same thing. The web site description doesn't say what parts ARE included, just what you need to supply separately.

Custom fabbed bracketry to attach the brake caliper to the strut without any fabrication, welding, or grinding on the part of the installer. That also happens to be strong enough to stand up to the forces generated by the caliper.

Look around at other big brake kits for the FB or figure out how you'd have to have the bracket shaped. It's not so simple as you might think, and the cheapest other setup I've seen is around a grand.

... I'm doing an FC front subframe swap tho, so... I just need bigger brakes in back to match. Or at least 5x4.5" hubs. :p:

ahhhh. those are sweet

So, your saying the aluminum piece I have seen that changes from the original caliper mounting holes to the new caliper holes.

Like this
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So the total is 350.00 for Instruction, 2 brake line, and two brackets. Still seems way steep too me.

40.00 for the brake lines
310.00 for two bracets?
instructions = priceless!!!!

Wlel, that's not quite right. In theory, you're right and all. But in practice, it's a bit more fiddly to do it with OEM parts. Look carefully or not... I'm not associated with it BTW, and I'm not buying one since I don't need it, but for most it's pretty neat.

So, ok that's very nice and all, but it's only half the car!

What about the rears?

guru racing in Australia was supposed to be designing a similar kit. I wonder how much theirs will be and what it will include? Hopefully they will come to sevenstock again this year.

Well as always, lets rip stuff up before we understand what we are getting.

You cannot simply just mount the 2nd gen hub to the 1st gen spindle, nope, it don't just slide on and off yah go.
The rear bearing and grease seal are different. So..... you will need to machine an adapter to fit inside the hub. Have it hardened and smoothed to make it durable and last.
Now you can mount your hub, then make your caliper bracket, which of course everyone can make cause its soooooo easy. just some tin snips and a ball of yarn and whamo! Ok, not that easy.

Look, I don't own stock in CP or work there. But they just try to make some parts that some people might want. for those who can't whip out a hub adapter and caliper mount. Yes it might be expensive, yes it might cost more than if you did it with duct tape and 3 slices of cheese. Bash if you want, I think its great that someone is trying to make stuff for our 20 year old cars.

Ok, rant over. you may resume your life :)

Oh, If you want a good read on how to do this yourself stop over @ Mazspeed, there is a writeup there on how 2 do this. It's where I got the info for above :P

PaulAber has the SevensOnly HUGE front brake kit, with the stock SE rear's and a porportioning valve, and it works GREAT, It has 11 3/4" rotors, so unless he goes up to 13" rotors, I see no need to upgrade the rears :)

Yea seriously, why does everyone on this forum get all over CP all the time for their prices, go make it yourself if you think its too expensive. It's an outdated car with only a handful of available parts, so of course its gonna be expensive. I haven't looked at the site yet, does it say what size wheels must be run in order for this to fit?

ah it does, 15" minimum on the wheels.
Where are you guys seeing that it comes with lines? The site says it uses stock master cylinder and lines.

Wouldn't you be a little upset if you got a big washer for your spincle spacer? Assuming one is needed..


I'm not ragging them but for $350.00 ebay $375.00 from the web site. I want to know what Im getting , dont you? Not just the finished picture.


Yeah, I gooffed on the brake lines, guess it has be to add that the parts you need to supply list.

Too defensive. If you're going to be selling a product, you should say what's included. They didn't.

Just to throw this out there and not to sound pessimistic (although it prob does)- my 85GSL has the stock 4 way discs. With fresh pads and properly machined rotors I have no problems stopping my car on a dime, nor have I experienced any fade under spirited driving.
My first rx-7 had the drum rears and was still fairly strong in the braking department.

What gains in stopping power will be had by upgrading to this set-up? Are there hard-core numbers showing stopping distances vs. stock?

It just says "Dramatically improved braking, and non-existent brake fade. " I mean- that's a lot of dough to shell out just to have the front brakes upgraded and bolt pattern changed. Hell- for that money and the price you spend to upgrade the rear and buy new rims you could get cross drilled rotors, Hawk pads, metal lines and possibly Panasports for your 1st gen (all the way around).

Why does it have to be a GSL? 84-85 I can understand, but I didn't realize that any 12a cars from those years had different spindles.

Thats probably a typo, I'm almost positive all non SE spindles of the same year are the same.

Well said! This is a good upgrade for Road Racing and or canyon runs. My car stops on a dime but when going down hill on a canyon with twisties, you'll soon realize how mediocre your brakes really are.

If only i had that money to waste, i'd buy so much stuff from them!!!!

Personally, I'm skeptical of them because of the problems being experienced by others on this board with their rack & pinion kit.

The poster that pointed out that they didn't state what came with the brake kit is correct. It appears underhanded when a seller does that.

-dave

I hate to talk shit, and I do appreciate their effort to make parts for our cars, but cp's products aren't impressive for the price. I understand the price of research, fabrication, and the pride of someones work but the quality is not there.

They don't even show what you are purchesing with this product, and pictures of other products are very limited.

I was rather unimpressed with the cars they took to RR.
I probably wouldn't rag on them if they hadn't ignored several e-mails.
I hope they stay around, research, and improve.

Agreed. Normally our brakes are great, on my commute back and forth to work and/or school they are perfect, but start getting on it hard and they heat up fast. I've never had it where it wouldn't stop, but its spooked me a few times.
As for not listing what the kit includes, I agree with you guys fully, a detailed list, down to the last nut and bolt should be provided (are you reading this CP?) Other than that I like CP.

Considering what the U.S. dollar is worth in Can. $350. kinda hurts, I fuckin understand Dicking around with a bench grinder, drill press, and die grinder for hours on end. I was going to build my own but I might as well save some time an buy It hopefully theyll come off that price $50 to bucks make it a little more affordable
1st gen brakes are good for about 3 good laps at any decient road coarse ask any SRX7 Racer