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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 10:47 AM
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Clutch question

I was driving around on the 22nd and went to down shift, and found I couldn't. I pressed the clutch and went to pull the stick. Nothing, wouldn't even drop in. Tried to shift to 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Nothing. Took my foot off the clutch and noticed that it was still on the floor. All this while I was trying to get off the freeway. I finally got the stick to drop into 2nd, but wasn't with any help of the clutch. Pulled into the parking lot of the shopping complex I wanted and did my shopping. Then called for a tow and went home. I'll have to call the shop today, but I want to have an idea on what may be wrong.

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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 12:57 PM
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Did you look under the hood at all? Was there any fluid in the clutch master cylinder?
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 01:10 PM
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Yeah, clutch master resovoir was full. Leads me to believe the hydrolic lines are okay. Perhaps the master cylinder itself is shot. I was thinking if it isn't that then could it be the fork for the throw-out bearing, the bearing itself, or the disc spring?

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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 01:16 PM
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What about your slave cylinder?
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 01:32 PM
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I had something like this happen to me. My slave cylinder plunger come out, because the clutch fork had a crack in it and bent. I got a used clutch fork from the junk yard for like $5. Took acouple days days because why I had things apart I perlaced the oil pan gasket and o-rings in the oiler cooler.
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 02:20 PM
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Let see. About 7-8 months ago I had work done to the Rex. Had the flywheel resurfaced, or replaced I forget which, had the clutch rebuilt, had the tranmission rebuilt, and had the slave cylinder replaced. Had nothing but problems with shifting from first to second above 4500rpm. Then on Saturday I had the complete failure of the clutch. So I don't know if the master cylinder is the problem, or if they only replaced the clutch disk when they did the rebuild and left all the other internals alone. If the clutch itself is the problem though, I shouldn't have to pay a cent for the repairs. Makes me wonder what they actually replaced when they rebuilt the transmission.

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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 03:29 PM
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Did you report the nonsense w/1st to 2nd after you got it back? It sounds like they forgot a spacer or bushing in the tranny itself and it basically ate itself alive due to improper clearances. Good luck on getting them to admit to it, though.
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 03:38 PM
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Mar- Several times. They keep to the story that it is operator error. As in it is my fault I rev to 4500+ and push the clutch pedal in then shift from first to second before releasing the clutch pedal. Its a bunch of b/s for sure, but they won't admit to it. Afterall, if I wasn't supposed to rev the motor past 4500 they would have put the redline there. Kinda funny though how I can rev past 4500 in 2nd - 4th though! :o)

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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 04:06 PM
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See if you can get a message to Pele. He's going to rebuild a tranny here soon and can probably tell you specifically what might have been missed in the rebuild. At least the junkyard trannies aren't too expensive. Run around $75 at my favorite rex boneyard.
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 04:25 PM
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Shop says it is more then likely the master cylinder. Is this an item that is easily fixed? Or is this something I should have the shop do? Funny they replaced my slave, but didn't decide to tell me the master would need to be replaced.

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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 11:43 PM
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This happend to me. It would not come out pedal to the floor . Ok i got a ride home one my friends said well lets float her home means use the synchs to power shift just to gte it home. WEll we over filled the clutch fluid. let it run started it in gear (not recommended) drove it like 5 miles and then he pushed on the clutch and at the floor it kicked out of gear, shifted fine just the clutch was the last inch so i adjusted the pedal. used it for like a day had had no way to work. Then it started to move further and further back. all the sudden it was at the very start of the pedal i adjusted it back and it has been driving fine no loss of fluid or anything. my firend says the clutches are self adjusting and there is a flaw cause they can just completly adjust all the way over fill it and let it set pump it up and then dirve wiht the clutch at the floor and slowly it will work bakc out and he says he has no idea but it happend to him on his so he had everything put in all new and month latter it happend again and then he figured this out don't ask me but it works. been drive 3 weeks almost 500 miles week and still no problems.
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Old Dec 27, 2001 | 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by mar3
See if you can get a message to Pele. He's going to rebuild a tranny here soon and can probably tell you specifically what might have been missed in the rebuild. At least the junkyard trannies aren't too expensive. Run around $75 at my favorite rex boneyard.
I don't think soon is likely.. More like this summer at the earliest.

Hopefully is a better word.
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Old Dec 28, 2001 | 01:41 AM
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I had the same thing happen a bit over a year ago, but it was accompanied with thud and rattling, after a perfectly good 7500RPM 1st to 2nd gearshift. I went to take out the clutch and it rained down pieces of friction disk down on me, the thing just shattered into about 20-25 chunks of crap. And if its the clutch and you go for your warranty, dont tell the shop you have any mods; when i went for my warranty the guy behind the counter remembered my RB exhaust and the Weber and basically tore up my warranty even thou the clutch($360-w/2year) was only 4 months old, and he origionally said the mods didnt matter.
just some info FYI, so you dont have to smack a store clerks head into his registers monitor like I did.
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