Manntis

I was talking to a buddy today who has 20 yards of carbon fibre and we were discussing making small, relatively inexpensive CF accent pieces (as in not hoods, those are huge and will cost $650 or so if we made 'em)

We concluded that perhaps CF headlamp covers would look cool, clearcoated to show off the distinctive CF pattern.

Question is, what would you rather have: a set of CF covers with a NACA duct on the right side, or a set of fixed headlamps (2 per side) with CF mouldings filling in the headlamp area?

gamble302

id be happy with fibreglass dual light pods like the one on the right.

Directfreak

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THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.





I am sure I speak for most of us...

RotorMotorDriver

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I think pods would be cool, cause if i get that CF hood that someone here is making (), then the CF headlight covers would be too much...It might look kinda funny.

~T.J.

RotorMotorDriver

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Hell, just make the pods out of fiberglass, I think that would be cool .

~T.J.

82streetracer

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whoever is making the carbon fiber hood is making CF headlights and valance also, I plan on getting them all and would rather get them all from the same guy, so they match.

gamble302

direct freak is right. i just didnt wanna bring up another mod you should get made for us
i like popups but they arent very bright and those dual lazy eyes are pretty sweet

82transam

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you speak for me at least. That kit rules

Felix Wankel

THAT IS WHAT I WANT!

Been wanting it for years!

BadAssRX-7

that gray car is sweet... wish i had 1 just like it....wait i did ... ill shut up now. i think its funny, everybody wants the light kit but when i linked it to the ebay/forum nobody bid on it and it went CHEAP

S2-13BT

Yessirree, the dual lamp sleepy eye look is very nice.

Maybe you could have the stock body coloured covers, then when it opens you've got the dual lamps surrounded in a CF trim peice. That would look cool.

Directfreak

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Hey, that DOES sound good.

I'd like to formaly apologize to Manntis once again, for Hijacking this thread..

Manntis

The thing with the sleepy kits is, everybody talks about how they're about to make one yet no one has one on the market - all those pics I see, I email the owners and get told custom, custom, custom... then once you install them there's mods to the lifting arms, etc.

The dual lamps are used with both the fixed pods I asked about or the sleepy kit. High quality, effective lamps, @ least the ones I'm sourcing out.

For the pod version you have 2 lamps, a mounting bracket, and a valence (body colored or CF) per side

For the sleepy kit you have 3D folded metal (pricey to make in low quantities, ask me how I know) to support the headlight brackets, the hinge, and the headlight mechanism, you have 2 lamps, and a valence, Holes lining up the valence and metal substructure must be properly aligned, substructure must have all factory mounting points for the hinge, etc... I've talked to a couple of guys who said they're close to releasing one, but they mention only the valence and lights, overlooking the fact that their kit needs a metal substructure. I've seen cheap bolt ins to the factory lids but I prefer things be done right, especially with safety equipment like headlights.

Basically sleepy eyes would cost 3-4 times as much to manufacture as fixed pods, which means a finished price about 3 times higher, and double to ship.

Speaking as a person who gets deluged with emails stating something like "Nice $50 stereo bracket dude, sell me one for $7" (way below my cost of materials & metal forming), and not yet made close to my money back on the first batch of components, I can't see making a full on sleepy kit soon.

Of course, I'm only speaking for myself. And no, I'm not in the least complaining, but explaining from a financial standpoint why I chose to offer the two above for consideration instead of the sleepy kit.

Felix Wankel

I wanted to buy one that was finished, but they never came out. I can make one like your old one (wtih no trim) myself

Manntis

If it's a kit, where can we get some? I could just make a new Carbon Fiber valence for the sleepy kit if it already exists in for-sale form

ioTus

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I think its a Miata kit. I've seen links before, but i dont remember. It seems the miata and rx7 headlights are damn near indentical.

I would seriously like to see a picture of a finished fixed dual light on a first gen. I might be very interested if it looks good.

I'll work on that link for you.

Geoff

Manntis

kewl. I know of a site that sold miata kits but the guy flatly refused to say whether it would fit in a 1st gen or not, and said in his opinion it'd take a ton of fabrication...

V8kilr

there was a whole site on how to put them in your mazda somewhere,
they told you where to buy them and there wasnt even any modding if im correct,
you just had to keep some of your stock parts

and also
THE KIT WAS NOT SLEEPY EYED
no sir
that i remember

ioTus

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Thats the one i'm thinking of, i think... lol....

but yeah thats the exact description i would give of this link i was talking about. But... i thought it was sleepy eyed???? well lest find the link and find out!!!

Gnite guys

Geoff

V8kilr

thats basically my whole gig,
i started the sleepy eye kit some time ago and even with my discounts on lighting "i have a dealer license" with the added up costs people were only willing to spend less then what they would costs just to make,
even the miata kits are not cheap,

here is the link $420.00 without shrouds

http://www.perfrmplus.com/miata/asp/...rchFor=&PT_ID=

BadAssRX-7

brain storm... and they are ********.. thats where i got the kit i cut all up to get it right... i called them and said the lights are leaking water into them....(responce) "oh what year miata did you put it in(81 rx7) oh im sorry theres no warrenty. click I WAS PISSED what the hell does the leaking light have to do with the car its in? so i have gone brain power and made a complte kit. and the reason we kit makers dont have them out is time and money. im doing them in my extra time and it is hard to get extra time when your the boss and the only empl. sure i could take them to a shop and say here make them..... but it would cost so much it aint even funny.

BadAssRX-7

[QUOTE]Originally posted by V8kilr
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thats basically my whole gig,
i started the sleepy eye kit some time ago and even with my discounts on lighting "i have a dealer license" with the added up costs people were only willing to spend less then what they would costs just to make,
even the miata kits are not cheap,

yea tell me about it i get the you want WHAT... i have OVER$200.00 in the lights them selfs with a account setup @ hella per kit plus my time, and all the other mat.

V8kilr

you called it man,
once people put their money where there mouth is then i'll bang out a couple kits,

and another not far off subject is like the people making custom fiberglass and carbon fiber hoods,
its people like the people we are talking about that scare them off,

i would buy a fiberglass hood today if someone had one,
and i have the money in my pay-pal account as we speak.
now other people say the same thing then when you ask if they still want a hood its "blah blah no money,blah,thats pretty expensive"
or better yet
"i can make it myself for that price"
what the hell is that sentance worth anyway?

no **** sherlock but im doing all the labor "hence this is where the deal part comes in"

and its not just people here ,
im not pointing any fingers,

but when i started making gauges everyone and there mom bothered me about 79-83 gauges and i only wanted to make 84-85
so i made the other years and even both speedos and only sold i think 3 sets

know the 84-85 on the other hand did really well on ebay so it more then enough made up for it,
also i even dropped the price on the 79-83 gauges to $25.00 a set
half the original price just to get rid of them and still no bites.

thats why i wont do reverse indiglo in 79-83

1st7heaven

Thats me! I have already sold the fiberglass hoods...if anyone is interested. We are working on the carbon right now.

Manntis

there was a ton of modding to get the headlights lids to 1/2 height when they open. Bending & cutting of the actuator arms, etc. And that has to be done by the customer.

Personally I'm all for the fixed pods as it (a) looks pretty good and (b) lets you rip out all the actuators, linking arms, headlight buckets, etc and replace it all with a single bracket and moulding per side.

Might actially only save 10-15 lbs, but every li'l bit helps