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I got a friend who runs low 12s in a FB....with just a street port..and he should be at rotor fest..So go and witness..
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Your in 14s with a b port?
Well dam im in the low 15s with stock ports
Like I said he should be at RotorFest,His car does run them time..it dont matter if its gutted,it still run those times.
Do you knwo anythign about rotary racing in FL..
Well Pito from Pito racing built his car...Pito has a drag starlet named Iris,I cant find any info online about him besides this...
http://www.lafiebre.net/cars/limon/limon.htm
I know you Heard of Kilo racing..
If not you need to see the rotarys from FL..go to rotorfest..
Well dam im in the low 15s with stock ports
Like I said he should be at RotorFest,His car does run them time..it dont matter if its gutted,it still run those times.
Do you knwo anythign about rotary racing in FL..
Well Pito from Pito racing built his car...Pito has a drag starlet named Iris,I cant find any info online about him besides this...
http://www.lafiebre.net/cars/limon/limon.htm
I know you Heard of Kilo racing..
If not you need to see the rotarys from FL..go to rotorfest..
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Originally posted by SoRRoW
You do NOT need to do big modifications t run a Holley on a RB intake thats whats they are made for...
You will see a spacer Under the carb..its not needed but its just one of my tricks..
You do NOT need to do big modifications t run a Holley on a RB intake thats whats they are made for...
You will see a spacer Under the carb..its not needed but its just one of my tricks..
If you do not have any plenum volume eg. just bolting the carb to the manifold the way RB does it, then you will run extremely rich as RPMs rise and it will generally run like handmade crap!
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I once figured that to lob my SA comfortably into the 12's I would need 250hp and decent driving.
250hp is quite possible with a N/A bridge port, assuming it's not tuned half-***.
And then of course the driver is part of the equation...
And my SA had a lot of weight that could have been removed, too. It still had the bumper supports, air conditioning, most of the interior, etc.
250hp is quite possible with a N/A bridge port, assuming it's not tuned half-***.
And then of course the driver is part of the equation...
And my SA had a lot of weight that could have been removed, too. It still had the bumper supports, air conditioning, most of the interior, etc.
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Originally posted by peejay
Actuslly, I would bet that is an open hole spacer! An open hole spacer gves you a plenum volume and communication between the two rotors, which is what you need to make a std. Holley work on an RB manifold!
If you do not have any plenum volume eg. just bolting the carb to the manifold the way RB does it, then you will run extremely rich as RPMs rise and it will generally run like handmade crap!
Actuslly, I would bet that is an open hole spacer! An open hole spacer gves you a plenum volume and communication between the two rotors, which is what you need to make a std. Holley work on an RB manifold!
If you do not have any plenum volume eg. just bolting the carb to the manifold the way RB does it, then you will run extremely rich as RPMs rise and it will generally run like handmade crap!
You DO NOT need the spacer under the carb..I use it to help anotmise<??? The fuel, it will still run with out the spacer,actually im running to lean right now..
You DO NOT have to do alot of modifications,to use a Holley on a RB intake..
Anyone else run a Holley what did you go out of the way and do to make it so hard to run a Holley?
Rotary racing is big in FL..I bet I can count the numbers of hooked up rotarys in my area than you can count shops in Ohio,I dont know why you dont think a FB or a 12A cant runs 12s on a street port,with mods..NOT stock Nikki..
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There's plenty of rotary action in Ohio... just not in my part of ohio. Why bother screwing around with imports when you can run so much faster with a Mustang for less money? More stock looking 9/10/11 second cars than you can shake a stick at. No imports.
(well not counting DSM's, which are probably the only import racing presence, but they aren't that quick, mainly 12's/11's)
The plenum is very important on a Holley carb, unless you want to rework the metering circuits. This is not something that can be debated, it's *proven* through experimentation and testing.
More stock looking 9/10/11 second cars than you can shake a stick at. No imports.(well not counting DSM's, which are probably the only import racing presence, but they aren't that quick, mainly 12's/11's)
The plenum is very important on a Holley carb, unless you want to rework the metering circuits. This is not something that can be debated, it's *proven* through experimentation and testing.
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Originally posted by peejay
There's plenty of rotary action in Ohio... just not in my part of ohio. Why bother screwing around with imports when you can run so much faster with a Mustang for less money? More stock looking 9/10/11 second cars than you can shake a stick at. No imports.
(well not counting DSM's, which are probably the only import racing presence, but they aren't that quick, mainly 12's/11's)
The plenum is very important on a Holley carb, unless you want to rework the metering circuits. This is not something that can be debated, it's *proven* through experimentation and testing.
There's plenty of rotary action in Ohio... just not in my part of ohio. Why bother screwing around with imports when you can run so much faster with a Mustang for less money?
More stock looking 9/10/11 second cars than you can shake a stick at. No imports.(well not counting DSM's, which are probably the only import racing presence, but they aren't that quick, mainly 12's/11's)
The plenum is very important on a Holley carb, unless you want to rework the metering circuits. This is not something that can be debated, it's *proven* through experimentation and testing.
I dont even know why you mention "Get a mustang blah blah " Then why are you here?Why do you own a 7 ..or do you * cough cough * Mr Belvi....
My last domestic power house,
69 OLds
'Rocket 455 (Big block)
Holley 750 DP
Turbo 400 trans
Olds 12 bolt rear
Ths car had the HP and Tourqe stock what most Stang boys which they had,I broke my drive shaft 1 time..and it left me in the road when I was racing another car from the light in downtown Tampa..
I missed this baby,she passed away and saved 5 peoples life in a bad car accident going 80-100 mph..
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Where did I say get a mustang? Where did I say go to an import shop?
There is only one import shop in my part of Ohio that I am aware of: Buschur Racing. Go down south to Columbus and things are different, but then again in Columbus you don't have practically everyone works for or having family that works for Ford or Chevy. So naturally nobody's going to have imports, since buying imports is bad for the locals. I've driven nothing but RX-7s for the past 55,000 driving miles and haven't owned anything but an RX-7 in years. But I don't let the fact that there are no tuner shops stop me, not that I'd go to one anyway since that's not my style.
I still don't see your point, though. It doesn't change the fact that you need X power to make a car of Y weight go through the traps in Z time, and a stock Holley running with no plenum between the rotors (as on a stock RB manifold with no spacer) *will* run like **** on a rotary. Unless the laws of physics are somehow different in Florida, I don't know as I've never been down there.
Well, actually, that can't be either, since I helped someone in Florida get his 12A running right by telling him he needed a plenum under his carb, he did that and it solved all his problems...
There is only one import shop in my part of Ohio that I am aware of: Buschur Racing. Go down south to Columbus and things are different, but then again in Columbus you don't have practically everyone works for or having family that works for Ford or Chevy. So naturally nobody's going to have imports, since buying imports is bad for the locals. I've driven nothing but RX-7s for the past 55,000 driving miles and haven't owned anything but an RX-7 in years. But I don't let the fact that there are no tuner shops stop me, not that I'd go to one anyway since that's not my style.
I still don't see your point, though. It doesn't change the fact that you need X power to make a car of Y weight go through the traps in Z time, and a stock Holley running with no plenum between the rotors (as on a stock RB manifold with no spacer) *will* run like **** on a rotary. Unless the laws of physics are somehow different in Florida, I don't know as I've never been down there.
Well, actually, that can't be either, since I helped someone in Florida get his 12A running right by telling him he needed a plenum under his carb, he did that and it solved all his problems...
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Originally posted by peejay
Where did I say get a mustang? Where did I say go to an import shop?
There is only one import shop in my part of Ohio that I am aware of: Buschur Racing. Go down south to Columbus and things are different, but then again in Columbus you don't have practically everyone works for or having family that works for Ford or Chevy. So naturally nobody's going to have imports, since buying imports is bad for the locals. I've driven nothing but RX-7s for the past 55,000 driving miles and haven't owned anything but an RX-7 in years. But I don't let the fact that there are no tuner shops stop me, not that I'd go to one anyway since that's not my style.
I still don't see your point, though. It doesn't change the fact that you need X power to make a car of Y weight go through the traps in Z time, and a stock Holley running with no plenum between the rotors (as on a stock RB manifold with no spacer) *will* run like **** on a rotary. Unless the laws of physics are somehow different in Florida, I don't know as I've never been down there.
Well, actually, that can't be either, since I helped someone in Florida get his 12A running right by telling him he needed a plenum under his carb, he did that and it solved all his problems...
Where did I say get a mustang? Where did I say go to an import shop?
There is only one import shop in my part of Ohio that I am aware of: Buschur Racing. Go down south to Columbus and things are different, but then again in Columbus you don't have practically everyone works for or having family that works for Ford or Chevy. So naturally nobody's going to have imports, since buying imports is bad for the locals. I've driven nothing but RX-7s for the past 55,000 driving miles and haven't owned anything but an RX-7 in years. But I don't let the fact that there are no tuner shops stop me, not that I'd go to one anyway since that's not my style.
I still don't see your point, though. It doesn't change the fact that you need X power to make a car of Y weight go through the traps in Z time, and a stock Holley running with no plenum between the rotors (as on a stock RB manifold with no spacer) *will* run like **** on a rotary. Unless the laws of physics are somehow different in Florida, I don't know as I've never been down there.
Well, actually, that can't be either, since I helped someone in Florida get his 12A running right by telling him he needed a plenum under his carb, he did that and it solved all his problems...
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Originally posted by peejay
Where did I say get a mustang? Where did I say go to an import shop?
Where did I say get a mustang? Where did I say go to an import shop?
Originally posted by peejay
Why bother screwing around with imports when you can run so much faster with a Mustang for less money?
Why bother screwing around with imports when you can run so much faster with a Mustang for less money?
Also (I) brought up about rotary shops cause theres alot of shops here and people who dont work in shops who build/port/tune rotarys...
How are you going to tell me about running rotarys in FL and about a Holley / RB set up which you probally dont have?My car ran with the Holley not properly tuned running low 16s as a matter of fact I put the wrong jets in the carb and forgot to run my secondary accel pump lever so I was actually running 2bbls a couple diff times on the track and didnt know untill I took the carb apart to rejet.
Either way.My car ran with out with out the spacer,as a matter of fact I dont like the stumble around 3-4k BUT its good for high RPMS which I use at the track and never go low as 3-4k
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Originally posted by WackyRotary
Never heard of Kilo racing.
I haven't been in florida since 95. I live 1500miles away. I won't be at rotor fest. I don't live anywhere near the southeast.
For anyone, hypothetically comment on this:
Standard road tires Stock 2400lb normal asperated, no NOS.
stock everything 12a car 101hp=1/4mile@16.5second?
streetport/mildport, intake/exhuast well tuned/muffler
12a 180hp?=1/4@15.3second?
Bridgeport 12a car, intake/exhuast well tuned/muffler
12a 220hp?=1/4@13.6?seconds?
Perpheral port, intake/exhuast well tuned/NO muffler
12a 280hp?=1/4@12 seconds?
Just thoughts, this with COMPLETELY STOCK driveline, stock body/interior, except maybe more grippy STREET tires. I'd like to hear what others think?
IT takes a certain amount of hp to achieve a certain 1/4mile time with all things remaning equal, gearing, tires, etc. Granted, with proper gearing/tires/etc, these times can be reduced with the same hp, but not a drastic amount unless its dedicated only setup for 1/4mile.
Never heard of Kilo racing.
I haven't been in florida since 95. I live 1500miles away. I won't be at rotor fest. I don't live anywhere near the southeast.
For anyone, hypothetically comment on this:
Standard road tires Stock 2400lb normal asperated, no NOS.
stock everything 12a car 101hp=1/4mile@16.5second?
streetport/mildport, intake/exhuast well tuned/muffler
12a 180hp?=1/4@15.3second?
Bridgeport 12a car, intake/exhuast well tuned/muffler
12a 220hp?=1/4@13.6?seconds?
Perpheral port, intake/exhuast well tuned/NO muffler
12a 280hp?=1/4@12 seconds?
Just thoughts, this with COMPLETELY STOCK driveline, stock body/interior, except maybe more grippy STREET tires. I'd like to hear what others think?
IT takes a certain amount of hp to achieve a certain 1/4mile time with all things remaning equal, gearing, tires, etc. Granted, with proper gearing/tires/etc, these times can be reduced with the same hp, but not a drastic amount unless its dedicated only setup for 1/4mile.
You never heard of Kilo racing,Pito racing,Ortiz speed shop?These are big hitters in Central FL,ask anyone from Central FL who these teams are,If you hang around SCCA you wont know abotu them they are Puerto Rican ran race shops nothing advertised on the net.
Where did you come up with yoru engine stats and times?My car is on street tires and non ported and I run 15s but the dyno says i have 104.7 @ the wheels..lol so you go figure...
Heres one way to stop the **** talking,If he drops his ford or gm rear end in ..he will be at rotorfest,back yoru **** up and take your car there.Dont assume this is a daily drivin full inter stock drive train FB..I will just say its street ported and its a 12A...and what do you consider a stock street port..lol
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Where did you come up with yoru engine stats and times?My car is on street tires and non ported and I run 15s but the dyno says i have 104.7 @ the wheels..lol so you go figure...
Stock streetport: a ported 12a or whatever a mildport, streetport...a 12a that has been ported, not bridgeported, or perpheralported....
And you are just now adding that the guy with a 12 second 12a streetport is not using a stock driveline? I don't care about what its capible of with a non-OEM driveline, which is what I'm getting at, That is what I want to know what a streetported 12a is capible of with. Not with a different rear on it. What do you think a 12a streetport is capiable of with a STOCK rearend on it then?
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I dont care if he has a street port..or a monster street port.
A TII tranny or a n/a tranny
A GSL rear or a Ford 9,
Your tring to tell me he cant* run 12s on a street port,I will take my time to see next time he goes to the 1/8 track before he gets to rotorfest,I will even harrasin him and push him to drop his rear end in so that he can run,and will post his vid and time sheet,or you can go there so you can shut up already.
Your 14 sec B port is not to good to be tring to put down other peopels times with a smaller port,Then dont make excuses that your running street tires..street exhast etc etc,Your going to a drag strip to race,even thouh its a street car* dont put down someone elses car cause its the same as you got and you assume its has a stock set up,He told me if he gets enough cash by then he will be running a Jerico,
And if he broke a GSL rear,you figure how much HP it takes to brake that,then guess about what that HP will take to run in the 1/4
A TII tranny or a n/a tranny
A GSL rear or a Ford 9,
Your tring to tell me he cant* run 12s on a street port,I will take my time to see next time he goes to the 1/8 track before he gets to rotorfest,I will even harrasin him and push him to drop his rear end in so that he can run,and will post his vid and time sheet,or you can go there so you can shut up already.
Your 14 sec B port is not to good to be tring to put down other peopels times with a smaller port,Then dont make excuses that your running street tires..street exhast etc etc,Your going to a drag strip to race,even thouh its a street car* dont put down someone elses car cause its the same as you got and you assume its has a stock set up,He told me if he gets enough cash by then he will be running a Jerico,
And if he broke a GSL rear,you figure how much HP it takes to brake that,then guess about what that HP will take to run in the 1/4
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I dont know if he even ran his on the dyno,Mine was ran by a guy who drives a Honda,
1=who was scared to go nto high rpm range cause the car was so loud (Up to 8 k like I said)
2=Said im running to lean. 17.5
and said if I had someone tune my carb he knows I get like 50 more HP..
Well I ran the car after it sat for 3 weeks,and put about 10 mins tuning the carb before I left my house,I just wanted to get an idea where I was at before I rebuild the engine,After its built and broken in I will try to get Pito from Pito racing to come down and try to help me tune the carb on the dyno.
I think you failed to see,
Im on stock ports,So you shouldnt compare my stats to his,hes got alot of port work and port matching.
1=who was scared to go nto high rpm range cause the car was so loud (Up to 8 k like I said)
2=Said im running to lean. 17.5
and said if I had someone tune my carb he knows I get like 50 more HP..
Well I ran the car after it sat for 3 weeks,and put about 10 mins tuning the carb before I left my house,I just wanted to get an idea where I was at before I rebuild the engine,After its built and broken in I will try to get Pito from Pito racing to come down and try to help me tune the carb on the dyno.
I think you failed to see,
Im on stock ports,So you shouldnt compare my stats to his,hes got alot of port work and port matching.
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Originally posted by WackyRotary
Did your foot kick your self in the mouth?
Kilo Racing =
At lease 1-3 cars of Kilo racing can be seen at Lakeland drag strip on Sundays.
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Originally posted by REVHED
A 3-rotor pp is a far cry from a 12A street-port.
A 3-rotor pp is a far cry from a 12A street-port.
When I was referring to some rotor shops and team I mentioned Kilo Racing...He said he never heard of Kilo racing..
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