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Old 10-29-03, 08:15 PM
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Okay, about a month ago I made my mind up to do a 1jzGTE conversion on my MKIII supra. Well, I waited too long to make my mind up...lol...and now the temps have already bumped the 20's. Most of the work I'd have to be doing outside, my garage isn't big enough, so it's put off until the spring. So instead, as some of you know, I'm selling my engine-less S5 (or trading, depending on the events in the near future) and taking on an FB project. I want a GSL-SE, gotta have disc brakes all around...they're the only ones with disc brakes all around right? Anyway...so here are my plans and prices I've found...if you guys know a better price somewhere please let me know:

Carb kit/manifold...webber 45: $600
Straight exhaust...headers, 2.5": $200
Elec fan kit: $100
Suspension Tech. full swaybar kit: $370
Lowering coils: $200
Not set on struts yet...

Other plans are the disdif whatever thing...lol. Haven't done much research on ignition, either, would like some suggestions on that.

I also plan to install a few FC things as well. Oil cooler, alternator, fusebox, has anyone ever tried FC coils?...I also have a big aluminum GM radiator lying around somewhere I might use.

my mind just went totally blank but that's the jist so far...
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The GSL had discs all around also, just a 12a/carbed engine instead of the FI 13b that the SE has (unless you find a GSL with the 13b swapped in).

Shocks/struts, I'm looking at Tokico's but don't know if they are the best or not for the money.

Straight pipe exhaust will be loud! Where do you live where you can run it like that? Good luck on the project!
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I live way out in the middle of...well...there's a stick in the ground about 80 miles west of here and that's the closest thing we got to civilization...lol.

I live in the Texas panhandle...believe me, I know it's loud, I used to have a straight piped FC...lol. Got lots of people pissed. It's not much louder than my current straight-piped MKIII NA Supra and I've managed to keep people off my back...so far...

Anyways...cool...the GSL had discs all around too? I wanna carbed 13b car but a 12A will work. What's the stock output of the 12a? Not really a factor but I'm curious.
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My buddies got an SE for sale but I live in VA
$1,300
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i'm not sure but i think the -se's have bigger disc brakes ment for the stronger engine...it may be better for your project if you were given the choice between the 2...
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Originally posted by HadaGSL-SE
My buddies got an SE for sale but I live in VA
$1,300
anymore info on this? where in VA is it?
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depending on the condition on the -se in VA i'd look into it...i drove from NJ to MA to get my black one then from NJ to SC to get my white one...(check out my "www" and you'll see them)...i would do -SE over any others if I had the choice...
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I'll be looking into it...I'd like to get an SE just for the power windows and such.

I really wish I had a 1-ton or something large that could tote a 40ft goose-neck...there's two cars in Tuscon I'd like to get...
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its southwest VA
it needs paint, and the transmission grinds into 2nd after the last guy test drove it
the drivers seat is leather and is cracked
but the motor pulls hard and doesnt really smoke
SE's fetch decent money these days so its all what your looking for
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Check into this one:::: https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=234468
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Originally posted by Makenzie71
I'll be looking into it...I'd like to get an SE just for the power windows and such.

I really wish I had a 1-ton or something large that could tote a 40ft goose-neck...there's two cars in Tuscon I'd like to get...
The GSL also had electric all around I think Bizarro is right though, if you are planning on making lots of power, go for the GSL-SE setup. The 12a starts with 101hp I believe and 135hp for the 13b?

My exhaust is broke right now (see sig) and driving the nine miles home after it broke, I swore I would get pulled over. The only thing that happened is none of the other cars on the road kept close to me for long The exhaust sounded boggy while it was below 3.5k but after I passed that point, it screamed! Sounded like I was driving a real race car then
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Originally posted by HadaGSL-SE
its southwest VA
it needs paint, and the transmission grinds into 2nd after the last guy test drove it
the drivers seat is leather and is cracked
but the motor pulls hard and doesnt really smoke
SE's fetch decent money these days so its all what your looking for
Pics, miles, colors, engine info? Ever been swapped? 13b, right? Any mods? I've got trannies. Interior doesn't matter. hell...exterior doesn't matter...I want a project. I just want it to run good...reliably.

Oh yeah...I live in the texas panhandle. It's about 400,000 square miles. Now do you have any idea where I live?...lmao...where in VA.
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135hp on a 13b is correct...gsl has disc brakes but were smaller and not vented where as they were bigger and vented on the -SE...

definatly the -SE but then again...i'm a little biased
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Originally posted by RacerX7fb
Check into this one:::: https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=234468
Me and Smeagol been talking a lot recently. At the moment it's just not something I can do. Before too long if I don't work anything out locally me and him's gonna trade. My black engine-less S5 for his FB.
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I think the FC coils will burn up the ignitors in the distributor.

The oil cooler and fuse box work great though.
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
I think the FC coils will burn up the ignitors in the distributor.

The oil cooler and fuse box work great though.
hell, I didn't think about the coils on the FC feeding directly to the plugs...no I imagine the dizzy isn't made to handle that kinna voltage...

The cooler and box is good to know, though!
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MSD makes a pretty good cheap coil. Though they aren't bullshitting when they say not to mount them horizontally. I heard they both went out.

You can do a direct fire setup with 3 coils and an MSD box, or do the DLIDFIS that Jeff20B posted. I have ran them both and liked them.
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I've read his write-up repeatedly and can't quite grasp it. I'll prolly have better luck when I have all the parts in my hands. But the DLIDFIS thing is something I'm certainly doing.
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Some SE differences that would enable you to take the project further are obviously, that it came from the factory with EFI, making a conversion to EFI or turbo EFI that much easier.

Also, on your concerns about brakes, the SE has vented disks all around, whereas the GSL's had vented front, solid rears. The LSD on the SE may be a factor in getting this power to the ground, as well. HTH,
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So the SE came with LSD? I thought all GSL's had LSD.
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they do
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maybee I'm not catching what he meant then...
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What about a GS? Anything special about it? I know they're 12a...brakes? Anything?

Will the front brake rotors mount on the rear?
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theres 265k on the body or something maybe 100k on the motor
hes got and intake, and full rb streetport exhuast which i guess either hell keep or ill buy off him, with that it ran 15.9 in the quarter with a horrible launch, the motor pulls hard and everything else about the car is pretty good its solid just not pretty. yeah its a 13b
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pretty doesn't matter...I want reliable. If the mods don't come with the car I'm not interested in hearing about them...not when comes to trying to find myself one...gimme his email address and I'll get with him.


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